You Don’t Fit In—Because You’re Not Supposed To with Guest Tim Croll
Have you ever asked yourself:
“Why don’t I fit in?”
Tim Croll asked that question for decades—and now, he’s here to dismantle the lie behind it.
In this raw and real episode of Your Ultimate Life Podcast, Tim and Kellan Fluckiger go deep into what it means to live with purpose, discipline, and spiritual confidence in a world that pressures us to conform.
💥 This isn’t another success story. It’s a truth story.
🔑 What You’ll Learn in Episode 963:
- Why discipline isn’t punishment—it’s power.
- How spiritual grounding creates emotional resilience.
- Why you’ll never find peace living someone else’s life.
- The truth about loneliness, false narratives, and fitting in.
- Why are nature, journaling and asking for help game-changers?
- How to find your purpose—and why only YOU can live it.
🎧 If you've ever felt out of place, stuck, or like you're the only one going through something hard—this conversation will change how you see yourself.
📣 Connect with Tim:
- “Please reach out. Even if it’s just to ask a question—connecting gives me fulfillment.”
- “You’re the only one who can live your purpose. Say it out loud.”
- “Don’t believe the lie that you’re alone. You’re not.”
📧 tim@timcroll.com
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00:00 - None
00:09 - Creating Your Ultimate Life
01:05 - The Diversity of Voices and Perspectives
07:39 - The Power of Discipline: A Journey of Confidence
17:16 - Developing Spiritual Confidence
26:41 - The Importance of Disconnecting for Personal Reflection
32:50 - The Journey of Self-Discovery
38:41 - Overcoming False Narratives: You're Not Alone
Welcome to the show.
Speaker ATired of the hype about living a dream.
Speaker AIt's time for truth.
Speaker AThis is the place for tools, power and real talk.
Speaker ASo you can create the life you dream and deserve your ultimate life.
Speaker ASubscribe, share, create.
Speaker AYou have infinite power.
Speaker AWelcome to your ultimate life.
Speaker AAnd I love the fact that Tim is laughing right to start with this whole time.
Speaker BWe don't need any more prep.
Speaker BLet's just jump in.
Speaker BLet's go.
Speaker AWell, it's the truth because what we were talking about right before I hit record is really simple.
Speaker AI am committed with every breath that I take to help people live the most joyful and powerful life they can.
Speaker ASo are you.
Speaker AIs that true?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BWe, and we literally said this.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BWe have same purposes, but different execution.
Speaker BAnd I love, love that because there's so much.
Speaker BWhen we talk about diversity, and we'll probably just jump into this, but we'll talk about when you talk about diversity.
Speaker BWe need diversity in our lives.
Speaker BWe need different people, different personalities, and we execute all differently.
Speaker BAnd that's such a misunderstood treasure and value that, that our world has kind of taken in a different direction.
Speaker BBut it's, it's definitely something that we need.
Speaker AYou know, one of the things I say to people, one of the things I love do is help people write books and tell their stories and stuff.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd people I hear over and over again.
Speaker AYeah, but what I'm teaching or what I have share in my book, it's already been said a million times.
Speaker AAnd I say, you know what?
Speaker AIt has.
Speaker AAnd we need another million.
Speaker AAnd we need another million because of what you said right before we started, which is people hear different things, right?
Speaker AThey hear, they need different people.
Speaker ASo what were you saying about that?
Speaker AAbout the diversity of voices and examples?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo let's, let's look at.
Speaker BThere's two things on that thing.
Speaker BThe first one is, as far as I can tell, the oldest book that I know of is out of Job.
Speaker BIt's from Scripture, from Bible.
Speaker BThat's the oldest book that I know of.
Speaker BI mean, it dates back a couple thousand years.
Speaker BPrior to that, I think the, the next oldest one would be the Pentateuch from the Old Testament.
Speaker BI think that's the old.
Speaker BAnyway, the point in this is the fact that if we start to look at all of the stories that have ever been told, we have historically about 6,000 years of information.
Speaker BYou're not going to add any new, like, aha, like this is brand new, like you're not going to come up with something that's genuinely brand new.
Speaker BIt's not going to happen.
Speaker BMaybe in the world of tech, maybe in that area you might come up with, but at the same time, there's still some kind of a principle behind it.
Speaker BWhat is key is the way that we tell that story.
Speaker BWhat is key is the diversity in how we hear things.
Speaker BSo there's different perspectives, and this is what I absolutely love, is how many different individuals can tell literally the same story, and yet it comes across in so many different methods and perspectives.
Speaker BAnd, and you may hear, let's just look at our kids and our parent and parent, the parent, child relationship.
Speaker BHow many times a parent said, do this, do this, do this, do this.
Speaker BAnd then the parent, the child comes home, he says, you'll never believe what my teacher told me today.
Speaker BAnd as a parent, you're sitting there like, no, duh, I've been telling you that for 20 years.
Speaker BBut they heard it from a different source and then suddenly it sunk in and actually resonated with them.
Speaker BAnd then they were able to take action.
Speaker BAnd that's exactly where we're at, is we want to leave the impact.
Speaker BWe want to help people become better.
Speaker BI may say something.
Speaker BOne way you're going to say it a different way and people are going to hear it in different, at maybe a different time of life.
Speaker BSomebody once said when, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
Speaker AI love that.
Speaker AThat's true.
Speaker AAnd I heard another way of saying that.
Speaker AIt's kind of funny.
Speaker AIt said, of course, everything that needs to be said has said, but because no one was listening, it has to be said again.
Speaker BYeah, well, sometimes it's, you were listening, but you have to.
Speaker BI mean, so if you go into marketing, they say you don't really realize a message until it's been heard.
Speaker BLike seven.
Speaker BSeven times, I think is what the number is.
Speaker BYou got to hear it seven times before it sinks in.
Speaker BIt's the same way with teaching.
Speaker BI mean, we've got to hear it over and over and over again.
Speaker BAnd that repetition of the same message in different manners, in different formats gives us the ability to internalize and then act upon whatever that message is.
Speaker AI love that.
Speaker AAnd even if you look at, you mentioned sacred literature, the Bible and there's other sacred books as well, the level of repetition of principles and stories in the I Ching and the DAO and the Bible and all those things, it's staggering.
Speaker AYou could turn it all into a pamphlet.
Speaker ABut the effort is to use different life circumstances, different centuries, different models, and different examples so that we can hear it in a way that we will then live and do something with.
Speaker BWe still have things from 2,000 years ago with Socrates and Aristotle and Marcus Aurelius, and I mean, we've got writings back even 2,000 years.
Speaker BSo you're absolutely right.
Speaker BBut these guys are actually repeating some of the same things that we heard from 4,000 or 5,000 years ago.
Speaker BAnd that's why I went back, as far as I know is the job, I think is the oldest book, as far as I know.
Speaker BI mean, I could be wrong.
Speaker BI don't have, you know, scholarly historical lessons on any of that, but that's just what I understand.
Speaker AWell, I love.
Speaker AAnd that particular book I love because there's lots of interesting parallels in my own life, but whatever.
Speaker ASo this is good.
Speaker AAnd you know, another thing that's fun.
Speaker AThis episode that we're recording right now won't get released to April 1st, but I had the blessing of talking to Tim last night on my LA talk radio show.
Speaker AAnd those of you that listen to this, if you didn't hear that, you should go back and hear it.
Speaker AThat would have been the episode on February 18th.
Speaker AAnd we talked a lot about the stuff that he does working with Lego and stuff, but we're gonna talk about maybe that a little bit, but some other stuff today.
Speaker AAnd he opted to be on both shows because you are a different audience than the others listening to that and because we're gonna talk about things in a different way now.
Speaker AI'm gonna ask you a question, Tim.
Speaker AI intentionally use this background behind me, and I hope you're watching, not just listening, but whatever.
Speaker AIt's an empty dojo, a martial arts studio, and I've spent thousands upon thousands of hours in one of those places over the decades as I've worked on martial arts.
Speaker AIf you look at that and what you know of martial arts and a dojo and a place like that, what does that suggest to you about our ability or about preparation for life or about acquiring skills or any of the things that are right up your alley.
Speaker AValley, in terms of teaching, I.
Speaker AI love this question.
Speaker BI actually have a black belt in karate, so I am very familiar with dojos.
Speaker BAnd you didn't know that before, so.
Speaker AI didn't keep going.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo there's an interesting thing that I have learned through this, and it is based in and around the word discipline.
Speaker BIn my life.
Speaker BI grew up in a very conservative type Baptist background where the word discipline was very negative.
Speaker BIt was very, you will be disciplined if you act up or if you act out in a way that's contrary to the way that we have stated.
Speaker BSo it was a very negative connotation.
Speaker BAnd so pretty much half my life, maybe more.
Speaker BAnytime you heard that word discipline, you thought you were getting cracked in the head.
Speaker BI mean, I'm obviously being facetious here, but you felt like the 2x4 was going to come down and break over top of your head because you did something wrong and you were going to be punished for whatever it is.
Speaker BInterestingly enough, when we use the word discipline in the proper manner in the dojo is a great arena.
Speaker BThe discipline is the honing of a skill to master it.
Speaker BSo if we discipline ourselves in a manner that allows us to hone that skill, to become a master of that skill, it gives us the ability to be able to walk more confidently.
Speaker BIt gives us the ability to have that skill to be able to use for the greater good, for service to others.
Speaker BAnd that discipline does not have to be a negative connotation.
Speaker BIt doesn't have to be a negative thing like what I grew up with, it can be a positive thing.
Speaker BAnd understanding that we are now being able to discipline our life, our.
Speaker BOur personal, interior, I call it the spiritual, you know, Persona, if we can discipline that, that allows us to gain mastery over our emotions, our mental fortitude, our physical beings, and show up in somebody else's life in a way that can impact them and help them become a better person.
Speaker AI love that.
Speaker AAnd, you know, it was just intuition to use this background.
Speaker AAnd I had no idea that you had done martial arts.
Speaker AI mean, I had a situation.
Speaker BCan I share a story about that real quick?
Speaker BDo we have time?
Speaker AYou do.
Speaker ATell me a story.
Speaker BSo I.
Speaker BI had a situation one time where I cut my foot pretty bad.
Speaker BAnd I.
Speaker BSo we were going to the dojo, and he had a white mat, a white canvas mat.
Speaker BAnd so I cut my foot pretty bad, and I had stitches and all kinds of stuff, but I still went.
Speaker BI still went and did the disciplines.
Speaker BI still went and took the classes, was able to go through.
Speaker BAnd I remember my sensei, he was so afraid that I was going to get blood on the mat, so he made me wrap that thing up.
Speaker BBut he allowed me to keep going, allowed me to keep practicing.
Speaker BBut he was scared to death.
Speaker BThe point is, is don't let things stop you.
Speaker BI mean, like, if you know and you've got a purpose, even a cut or something else, you can find ways around that.
Speaker BAnd it was just something that I learned.
Speaker BI was just A kid.
Speaker BBut I mean, like, I got to do this.
Speaker BI got to be committed, I got to get it done.
Speaker BAnd I had a goal, and I was.
Speaker BThere's a lot of other motivation behind why I wanted to have the lessons, but even a cut foot wouldn't stop me from getting that that next day lesson or getting the next level of the blacks or blues or wherever I was at.
Speaker ASo I want to go down that road for a minute because the commitment to growth is what underpins my work.
Speaker AUnderpins your work with Lego leadership and all that.
Speaker AIt is a commitment to growth and your example as a youngster, deciding that it was more important to honor that commitment than to take what could have been an obvious and easy respite for a week or two or three while your foot healed.
Speaker AIt is a choice that we make.
Speaker AAnd the fact that you had to wrap the foot is irrelevant.
Speaker AIt was the requirement in order to continue.
Speaker AAnd you were saying, yeah, I'll do whatever.
Speaker AI have to wrap the foot, stand on my head, whatever.
Speaker ABecause you made a choice to continue.
Speaker AAnd then you made a comment earlier about the spiritual discipline.
Speaker AI want you to talk for a minute about the choices available and powerful to us in disciplining our spirit or our energetic being.
Speaker BI think it comes down to a motive more than anything else, and I'll relate a couple of different things.
Speaker BAnd then I also want to reference this book.
Speaker BIt's out of print now, but it's a book Coming out of the Ice by Victor Hugo, I think his name is, and I'd have to look at it just to make sure.
Speaker BBut coming out of the ice, incredible in depth.
Speaker BLook at the power that we have with our minds and with our bodies.
Speaker BThings that he accomplished.
Speaker BHe sidetrack here real quick.
Speaker BHe was a prisoner in one of the concentration camps in Russia, and they tried to kill him off multiple times.
Speaker BOne of the times that they tried to kill him off was they said, you're going to go out and load this rail car full of logs before you can come back and eat.
Speaker BSo if you don't, if you make the decision you don't want to do it, you sit down and you just die.
Speaker BThat's literally the choice.
Speaker BYou sit down and die, or you fill this rail car full of logs.
Speaker BOut of 10 people, he is the only one that filled the rail car with logs and made it back to the camp.
Speaker BThe only one.
Speaker BNine other people made a choice to die on that rail car.
Speaker BAnd it's interesting because that shows, and there's a lot of Other things shows the power that we have within our minds when we make a commitment, when we're motivated and there's hope.
Speaker BSo switching back into this whole aspect of the karate.
Speaker BThe reason I wanted karate, because I had zero confidence as a kid.
Speaker BI was one that everybody picked on.
Speaker BI was always so the biggest.
Speaker BSo there was two, two things that were going on in my junior high.
Speaker BI was awkward, I was the youngest, but I was also the biggest kid in the class.
Speaker BAnd so people constantly picked on me and a lot of different things.
Speaker BAnd I got in a fight one day and I didn't know how to fight, I didn't know how to hold my own.
Speaker BAnd so situation came around.
Speaker BThe guy came around the school bus and literally clocked me, blindsided me.
Speaker BAnd I just was like raving lunatic in the fight.
Speaker BI mean, swinging my arms, kicking everything.
Speaker BI didn't know what to do.
Speaker BI had no control over everything, started taking those lessons and my motive was confidence and I wanted to be able to hold my own.
Speaker BAnd I recall later, after I had gotten through many, many different lessons, I had another situation where a guy came around and clocked me again, same situation in a school, in high school that time.
Speaker BAnd I remember being so cool headed because I had the confidence that I had gotten through the discipline.
Speaker BSo you talk about choices.
Speaker BOne is the fact, the reason why I made that choice is because I had a deeper motivation.
Speaker BI wanted confidence, I wanted not to be kicked around.
Speaker BI didn't want to have the life that I had at that point.
Speaker BAnd then the result of it, which I didn't expect, was this increase in confidence.
Speaker BThe interesting thing is because of my confidence, I was able to back down the bully without even getting into a fight.
Speaker BSo I had all of this training.
Speaker BI'm like, okay, I'm ready to go.
Speaker BI'm actually ready to get in this fight because he's coming at me and I'm going to defend myself and I'm ready.
Speaker BAnd then because he saw how much confidence I had, he backed off.
Speaker BAnd I was just like that.
Speaker BThat revelation to me was just, especially as a kid, I'm like, oh, so in other words, if I act in confidence and if I, I believe the things that I've been training myself to do in that discipline, people are going to respond different to, differently to me.
Speaker BAnd so I know I'm kind of rabbit trailing back and forth, but the main point is what you asked about this fact of why is discipline so important and how does that actually focus our, our direction and the choices that we make.
Speaker BOne is making sure that we've got the motive.
Speaker BTwo is when we do the daily tasks or we do the actions, and maybe they're on daily, maybe they're weekly, maybe they're monthly.
Speaker BWe gain confidence in who we are.
Speaker BAnd through that confidence, it gives us the ability to act within our strength, within our skills, within our personality, because we're confident as that individual.
Speaker BAnd without that confidence, I really, truly don't believe that you can build that ultimate life.
Speaker BI don't believe that you can actually get into what it is that you need to in order to be able.
Speaker BYou have to go through that training, make the choices to show up through the hard, through the rain, through the storms, through the trauma, through whatever it is, show up and purpose that you're going to learn something and grow through it and discipline yourself to get through it.
Speaker BBecause that's what gives you the confidence when something else bigger comes down the line.
Speaker AI love that.
Speaker AAnd that's not a rabbit trail at all, because the creation, I'm using that word on purpose.
Speaker AThe creation of your life, ultimate or sucky, is a creation.
Speaker AAnd what you're saying is if you have the discipline to have a purpose and a goal and you make those choices, you can create whatever you want to.
Speaker AAnd it is by following those disciplines.
Speaker AAnd so that's very relevant.
Speaker AAnd the story's fun.
Speaker ASo a delightful story that you did that.
Speaker BI have never told that story on any podcast.
Speaker BThis is the first time I've ever told that story.
Speaker ASo delightful, delightful.
Speaker AWell, I share.
Speaker AI spent many, many, many years in it.
Speaker AAnd I ran a dojo for a little while.
Speaker AAnd the interesting thing about confidence is when I took my second degree black belt test in one particular discipline, and I have it in a couple, you had to do a breaking a set of braking things.
Speaker AAnd I had eight braking stations and it was all choreographed.
Speaker AAnd you had about six or seven seconds to get through all eight stations.
Speaker AAnd the last one was five cinder block tops, five of those, two inch cinder block, five of those to break.
Speaker AAnd, you know, I thought about it later and it's funny because of all the pictures that someone took, that was the only one that came out.
Speaker AAnd one of the people who was the owners of the dojo, her face was caught in the mirror right at the moment of impact and she was like this.
Speaker AAnd it looked like this horrifying thought of, you know, this is either going to work or every bone between the wrist and the shoulder is going to be destroyed.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd so that's Funny.
Speaker AAnyway, I love that.
Speaker ASo thank you for sharing all that.
Speaker ASo, as you've learned those disciplines and you've now applied them to the confidence that it takes to create, I want to take a little dive into the spirit, our spiritual realm, if you're willing, a little bit.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker ASeveral references to it.
Speaker ASo talk about why spiritual confidence is important to develop and nothing's off limits.
Speaker AYou're free to discuss it in any way you'd like to, but we have the physical things where we learn a skill and we make money and we do the outward things.
Speaker AMy belief, my certainty, because of my experience, is that the inward is more important in the foundation.
Speaker ASo talk about developing confidence and discipline there.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI think one of the biggest things is there's a difference.
Speaker BAnd I'm going to go into a little of what the world would consider taboo because you said nothing's off limits.
Speaker BBut I think there's a significant difference between formal religion and the relationship that we have with our Savior.
Speaker BI am not on the side of formal religion.
Speaker BI don't go down that road because I feel like it is a fake practice.
Speaker BIn most cases, it's a ritual that doesn't hold a whole lot of meaning, except for the fact.
Speaker BOkay, check that off the box.
Speaker BI did it.
Speaker BIt's not a relationship.
Speaker BAnd so I.
Speaker BI kind of shy away from what I would consider former religion because I feel like it's very institutional and it doesn't really give us the.
Speaker BBasically, here's what happens if somebody shows up to church on Sunday.
Speaker BThey go through all the process and everything, and it doesn't impact their life.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo they go the rest of the week.
Speaker AI agree with you, by the way.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThey go the rest of the week and they just act the way that they always did.
Speaker BAnd then they come back to Sunday and then they act something like different.
Speaker BAnd I like.
Speaker BSo to me, and I mentioned this on your.
Speaker BOn the radio show, I have four values, and one of the very first one is authenticity.
Speaker BAnd when we talk about authenticity, if I'm going to go show up at church on Sunday and act in a manner that is contrary to the way that I act the rest of the week, that's not for me.
Speaker BThat's not the way I want to go.
Speaker BHowever, I deeply believe that we must have a relationship with Jesus Christ.
Speaker BThat is a core element.
Speaker BSo it starts with that foundational component, and that's where all of the spiritual aspect begins.
Speaker BFor me.
Speaker BIn that spiritual side, there is two elements.
Speaker BIt's our internal right There's a life that lives internally, which is what you were mentioning.
Speaker BAnd I truly believe in that internal side of things.
Speaker BThere is this aspect of.
Speaker BI guess you could call it the seat of our emotion.
Speaker BThey used to call it the stomach or the gut.
Speaker BSometimes now, especially in our modern language, we talk about our heart and how our heart feels.
Speaker BOur heart is broken.
Speaker BWe use a lot of those kinds of terms, but that is the seat of our emotions.
Speaker BIf we don't get in touch and understand that internal spiritual side and be able to be in touch with our emotions, then we have no idea how to be able to react with the rest of the world.
Speaker BBecause especially when we talk about emotional intelligence and iq.
Speaker BI mean, we could talk about spiritual.
Speaker BI kind of mesh those things together.
Speaker BFirst of all, it starts with that relationship with.
Speaker BWith Jesus Christ, who is the superior in my life.
Speaker BAnd that's the being, that's the foundation, the morality upon which I based everything.
Speaker BThen the second step of that is the emotional side of things.
Speaker BAnd I look at how am I managing my emotions?
Speaker BAm I allowing them to run away?
Speaker BAn interesting thing in this part of it, a little cue.
Speaker BSomebody just introduced me to this idea a couple of weeks, or maybe it was a month, a couple months ago.
Speaker BA little cue to know if we've got our emotions in check is the difference in the gap of a reaction and what I mean by that.
Speaker BHe shared this with me.
Speaker BSo there was a situation where there was a justifiable reaction.
Speaker BIt was justifiable to be angry about a situation, but it wasn't a justifiable reaction.
Speaker BSo in other words, here's a situation is somebody does something and it irks you, so you get frustrated, you get a little bit angry.
Speaker BBut are you overreacting where you're actually going to an extreme of yelling and arguing and.
Speaker BAnd going off the edge of this reaction.
Speaker BAnd that gap between what happened and the reaction that you actually had shows that you're not in control or in touch or understand even your internal emotions.
Speaker BSo that.
Speaker BThat should raise a question.
Speaker BThat's like a red flag.
Speaker BIt's like, hey, what's going on there?
Speaker BWhat's happening?
Speaker BAnd that's something that you have to deal with.
Speaker BThat's a whole nother conversation.
Speaker BBut that is going back to this whole component of the spiritual side of things is you have to very quickly take the time.
Speaker BI don't want to say quickly.
Speaker BYou have to take the time, whatever time is necessary to analyze what the heck is going on internally.
Speaker BBecause sometimes those are the hardest Conversations that we have, they're the most awkward, they're the most difficult because we as a society have sped our lives up.
Speaker BWe feast on adrenaline.
Speaker BWe feast on all of the stuff that's going on, whether it's a news channel, and I don't care what news channel you listen to or a social media, you're feasting on it.
Speaker BAnd you have a constant barrage of sound input, emotions.
Speaker BAnd we choose not to deal with our own personal.
Speaker BSo when we're looking at this, we have to be able to take time to sit down and be quiet and analyze what the heck is going on internally, because otherwise we're going to implode at some point in time.
Speaker BAnd I can tell you from I worked with about 100,000 affiliates in a program one time, and all of those affiliates, they all started making some serious money.
Speaker BAnd every one of them, when they didn't take the time to understand themselves, they imploded.
Speaker BAnd they imploded through drugs, they imploded through DUIs or they got thrown in jail.
Speaker BSome of them lost their lives because they were doing things.
Speaker BThere was an implosion because they weren't taking care of their own personal internal life and they weren't growing with the success that was being surrounded around them.
Speaker AI love that.
Speaker AAnd I intentionally invited you into the spiritual side because, you know, you mentioned Christ as the Savior, regardless of the name, you give that, that being and that feeling.
Speaker AAnd I honor.
Speaker AAnd I'm also a Christian.
Speaker ABut to speaking to those that aren't, you know, there is something above you.
Speaker AYou know, there is power and organization.
Speaker AYou know you came from somewhere, you know you're going somewhere.
Speaker AYou may call different, but you know that.
Speaker AAnd the spirit is the foundation of the physical.
Speaker AThe physical follows the spiritual.
Speaker AAnd so if you chase the physical around without, without having a foundation on spiritual, it will collapse, as in your example.
Speaker AAnd I'm a perfect.
Speaker AI'm not talking about something I don't know.
Speaker AI lived that.
Speaker ASo I, I totally get that.
Speaker AAnd I appreciate your, your description of that and going there.
Speaker AWhat do you do?
Speaker ALike, you're martial artist, you obviously take care of yourself physically.
Speaker AI can see that.
Speaker AWhat is your spiritual preparation?
Speaker ALike, how do you do that?
Speaker ANot every day, whatever you do.
Speaker BNo, it's a good question.
Speaker BSo I actually go through a different process for different things.
Speaker BAnd I mentioned this on the radio, but I'm just like, dude, this is so me.
Speaker BI am all over the place when it comes to things.
Speaker BAnd I don't like the same thing over and over again because I get bored, frankly, it's just my personality and I've now come to embrace that and I really love that.
Speaker BSo there's a lot of things I do.
Speaker BOne of the biggest things though, is I'm a reader.
Speaker BI have a whole bookshelf full of books.
Speaker BAnd it's not, I know there's other people that like audio.
Speaker BThey take the time that I want to physically read a book, and here's why.
Speaker BFirst of all, it slows me down.
Speaker BNow, I'm a pretty fast reader, and so if I'm listening to something, sometimes I'll get distracted.
Speaker BBut I want that physical book to be right in front of me.
Speaker BAnd I literally have four or five books that are right here.
Speaker BAnd I've got processes and a system that I use for when I read.
Speaker BBut that's the first thing is I need to read.
Speaker BNow, there's a combination of different types of reading.
Speaker BAnd so one of the things is I like to read based on a purpose or a research.
Speaker BWhy do I, what, what is it that I'm trying?
Speaker BI don't want to just read to read for sake.
Speaker BI, I, I don't do that kind of a thing.
Speaker BI want to what is the purpose of this book and why am I trying to read this?
Speaker BOr what am I researching?
Speaker BAnd whether that scripture or through some other different takes on what the scripture says or different, there's all kinds of different ways to do that, but I want to research and look into that.
Speaker BThe second part of that, though, is what's again that awkward conversation that, that what's going on internally?
Speaker BWhat do I really think about what's being said and how can I apply that and then take action on that?
Speaker BSo journaling is a huge part of my life.
Speaker BI've got now, 1, 2, I'm looking up on my board here.
Speaker B1, 2, 3, 4.
Speaker BI've got 5, 4, 4, 4 completed, 5 completed journals and I've got one here that's almost completed that I have with me all the time.
Speaker BAnd there's specific things that I write in there.
Speaker BAnd whether that's note taking from things that I'm hearing or listening or books that I'm doing or like, hey, this was a.
Speaker BGratitude is a big, big thing for me.
Speaker BThese are things that I'm grateful for.
Speaker BOr frankly, there's times when I'm sitting there yelling like, what the heck is going on?
Speaker BLike, I don't understand this life.
Speaker BI'm in the middle of crap right now and I don't get it.
Speaker BWhy is this happening to me?
Speaker BI don't deserve this.
Speaker BAnd I kind of just vocalize that through my journaling because that gives me a way to vent, for lack of a better word.
Speaker BI just vent through that and it relieves some of that stress.
Speaker BIt allows me to get that out rather than clamming that off.
Speaker ADo you find that.
Speaker AObviously you do.
Speaker AThis is a stupid question, what I was saying.
Speaker BThere's no stupid questions.
Speaker BWe're all good.
Speaker AI mean, the answer is obviously yes.
Speaker AYou find that this diversity and focusing on this internal conversation keeps you grounded and connected to the spiritual plane?
Speaker BAbsolutely, 100%.
Speaker ADo you find that grounding and connecting to the spiritual plane is a non negotiable essential to your life?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BAnd I would add one more thing to that because we talked about kind of the study and the intake.
Speaker BThere's another piece of that that I didn't mention, which is the disconnect.
Speaker BWe have to disconnect.
Speaker BAnd every year we plan to disconnect.
Speaker BAnd sometimes I disconnect with myself.
Speaker BIn other words, I'm just by myself.
Speaker BBut other times I'll actually disconnect and I'll take people that I really love and trust.
Speaker BAnd frankly, in the last four years, I think it's been.
Speaker BIt's been with My boys, my two oldest boys, he's 25 and 22, and we'll actually go on a backpacking trip anywhere between three and up to five days.
Speaker BAnd on that backpacking trip, you don't have any cell signal.
Speaker BYou don't have anybody else that you're counting on.
Speaker BYou don't have.
Speaker BYou pack in all your food, you pack in your tent, you pack in everything that you're going to need to survive for the next five days.
Speaker BYou're packing that in.
Speaker BAnd when I'm saying disconnect, you're grounding yourself back to what.
Speaker BWhat I call the nature's aspect.
Speaker BAnd there's a very important key when we ground ourselves back to nature, it shows us how small we are.
Speaker BSometimes, especially in my own life, I tend to get egotistical and I like to get a big head.
Speaker BAnd I think, oh man, look at all this great stuff that I'm doing.
Speaker BAnd then I go out in the woods and I sit there and it's pitch black.
Speaker BAnd you see all these millions of stars up there, or you hear the owls calling and all the different things that are going on.
Speaker BIt's amazing how small you feel.
Speaker BAnd it shows you truly how this little bit of my life is.
Speaker BIt's Insignificant, but yet it is significant and I'm honored to be a part of that.
Speaker BI'm honored that somebody would use me because there's so many other things out there and there's universe that are just so much more beyond what I understand and how I can even cope.
Speaker BSo that grounding with nature gives us that chance to really come back to a base of humility.
Speaker ASo when you were getting beat up or behind the bus, decided to go take martial arts.
Speaker AYeah, it was a couple minutes ago.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo you've been on a journey through things that led you here.
Speaker AAnd so one of the most precious things we can share with people because when someone looks at me, 20 books I've written and all this stuff, or looks at you, the successful leadership business, they mistakenly get the feeling that I can't do that I can't have, that it won't work for me.
Speaker ANo, no, no, no lucky breaks, whatever excuses we create.
Speaker AAnd the important thing is the sharing of the journey.
Speaker AThe successes, the failures, the questions, you know, the answers, the circuitous things.
Speaker AWhat kind of give me a story or two.
Speaker BOh man.
Speaker AAbout you, about your own growth, where you uncovered some profound things that shaped or are continuing to shape your life.
Speaker BI would say this the number one question in my head, and this has been consistent all the way up through my 20s and, and potentially sometimes it comes up even now and I'm in my 50s at this point.
Speaker BWhy don't I fit?
Speaker BWhy don't I fit with all of the people that are doing things that I feel like are normal or what society tells me is normal?
Speaker BI wrestled, when I say wrestled with that question, I deeply wrestled with that question.
Speaker BI would do things like.
Speaker BAnd this I remember I was literally in fourth grade and I don't know why I can clearly remember some of these things, but I remember I in fourth grade and, and I'm, I'm innocent looking at this and I was like, I said to a friend, I said, yeah, I just really, truly enjoy going out in the woods and playing by myself.
Speaker BAnd all of these little middle aged kids, they all started giggling and they all started laughing and I didn't realize.
Speaker BNow I realized, but then I didn't realize, like, what are you laughing at?
Speaker BThey, they had that sexual connotation to it.
Speaker BAnd I was just like, dude, I'm not, that's not.
Speaker BAnd so it made me really question, am I okay?
Speaker BAnd so because I didn't fit and because of that I actually look at am I okay?
Speaker BAnd the conclusion that I came to is no, I'm not.
Speaker BOkay, because I obviously don't fit with everybody else.
Speaker BI'm not their image of what it is.
Speaker BMy sister made perfect grades and everybody asked, well, why can't you be more like your sister and making grades?
Speaker BBut on the flip side of that, if we got locked out of the house, guess who had to figure out how to get in the house?
Speaker BI did.
Speaker BI was able to figure that stuff out.
Speaker BI was able to come down and logically go through stuff and I had to take care of those kinds of things.
Speaker BThe interesting thing is I struggled so hard with the fact that I didn't fit, that I went above and beyond and attempting to fit in.
Speaker BFor a long time I went to the edges of saying, I, how is it or what is it that I need to do in order to be accepted?
Speaker BI use those words kind of in air quotes.
Speaker BHow did I, how did I, what did I have to do in order to be accepted in the popular society?
Speaker BAnd frankly, I never was.
Speaker BI would just go, now that journey has led me.
Speaker BSo I'm going to bring back in this whole discipline and this structure and working on yourself.
Speaker BBecause if I'm attempting to live somebody else's life or something else, this other narrative that they're putting on me, I am never going to be satisfied.
Speaker BAnd I'm constantly going to be empty and I'm going to constantly be chasing something that's out there although I don't know what it is.
Speaker BAnd I will never find satisfaction.
Speaker BI will never find fulfillment.
Speaker BThe only way to find fulfillment is to go back, work on the disciplines of who I am, understand what my skills and what my talents are, how I was uniquely created and crafted, what is the personality, what are my passions, Kind of put that into a melting pot to be able to come up with what I would say is the purpose of my life and then understand that that purpose, I am the only one that gets to live that purpose.
Speaker BYou are the only one that gets to live that purpose.
Speaker BNobody else is going to be able to fulfill that purpose except you.
Speaker BAnd so here I am as a kid looking at this and saying, okay, I need to fill so and so's purpose or this purpose or that purpose.
Speaker BAnd I'm finding just complete emptiness and I'm finding frustration and I'm finding all of these other challenges that don't make me who I am.
Speaker BAnd it wasn't until I actually went on this journey of self discovery and be able to say, okay, what is my purpose?
Speaker BAnd then realizing I was placed here on Earth for that purpose.
Speaker BAnd I'm the only one that gets to be Tim Crowell.
Speaker BNobody else does.
Speaker BSo whoever's listening, I would say this.
Speaker BYou're the only one.
Speaker BAnd I want you to say this out loud.
Speaker BI'm the only one.
Speaker BAnd put your name in.
Speaker BI'm the only one that gets to be.
Speaker BAnd put your name in there.
Speaker BBecause you have a unique purpose.
Speaker BYou have a specific purpose calling a way to be able to impact this world that nobody else can do.
Speaker AI am grateful that you said that.
Speaker AI share, I echo, I agree with that message and that uniqueness.
Speaker AEverybody says I'm special, and other people say, yeah, different sides of that thing.
Speaker ABut the literal, absolute, eternal, profound truth is you're divinely created.
Speaker AYou're here for a reason.
Speaker AYou had a purpose that you not only agreed to, but you were stoked about before you came.
Speaker AAnd you have the gifts and talents unique to that purpose.
Speaker AAnd so, of course, you don't fit in anybody else's narrative.
Speaker AYou can't.
Speaker AAnd embracing one that truth and then relaxing into the discovery process instead of frantically panting your way, trying to force the discovery process is so rewarding and joyful.
Speaker ADoes that sound right to you?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BI would add one more thing to that.
Speaker BEverything was spot on.
Speaker BAnd I would add one more thing to that.
Speaker BThis was another area of struggle.
Speaker BI used to bemoan or begrudge the experience that I had in life.
Speaker BSome of the stuff that I had to do as a child through middle school or junior high, I used to.
Speaker BWe ended up moving when I was in ninth grade.
Speaker BWe moved from one side of the state to the other side of the state, from East Pennsylvania to West Pennsylvania, uprooted new, new friends, knew everything.
Speaker BThen I went to one school for a year, and then we changed and we went to another school.
Speaker BSo I literally spent two years in the school that I graduated.
Speaker BThen I went to college and I moved around.
Speaker BI have had a lot of experiences.
Speaker BI used to begrudge that because I'm looking like, well, why couldn't I have a stability?
Speaker BWhy couldn't I be something normal?
Speaker BWhy couldn't I that Now I look back and I'm like, man, those experiences were unique to me, which gives me a unique way to relate to other people.
Speaker BSo I would strongly encourage those that are going through things and whether it's a move or maybe it's trauma, maybe it's an accident, maybe it's, I broke my leg my junior, My junior year of high school broke my leg, was unable to play in the basketball game, just so you guys know, and most people don't understand this, but I had a 60 shooting average when I was on the court.
Speaker BIt's huge when you're in high school.
Speaker BYeah, it's a high, high, high percentage field goal percentage rate.
Speaker BSo I had a 60, a huge chance of scholarships, a lot of other things.
Speaker BAnd I broke my leg and lost an entire year, which set me back massively in that.
Speaker BAnd then I went and I got to college.
Speaker BAnd the very first game that I was on the court, I jumped up and I twisted my ankle.
Speaker BI never played one game of college ball, not one game because I couldn't play.
Speaker BAnd then I just everything moved off and I ended up going in a different direction.
Speaker BSo I look at that and think, oh, man, it's a waste, it's a waste, it's a waste.
Speaker BBut yet at the same time, it gave me the ability to understand my human body and the amount that I could take.
Speaker BAnd when I.
Speaker BThere's a lot of things that go into this, and I'm talking kind of fast because I feel like we're getting close to our time here.
Speaker BBut you mentally, physically, can do far beyond what you actually think you can do.
Speaker BFar beyond.
Speaker BAnd that's, again, coming back to this, coming out of the ice.
Speaker BThat book opened my eyes because I read it right about the time I broke my leg.
Speaker BYou have the ability to do things that you didn't even know that you could accomplish.
Speaker BAnd if you give yourself permission to try and to push and to break through that, well, I don't feel like I could.
Speaker BIf you give yourself permission, physically, mentally, spiritually, socially, you can do it far, far more than you believe you can.
Speaker BAnd if I can instill that belief on somebody, then I'll say this entire thing was worth it.
Speaker BIf we can just instill that belief on one person, saying you can do it, this whole entire conversation is worthwhile.
Speaker AI second that and agree with that.
Speaker AAnd I would say I'm thankful for you for saying all that and saying it so convincingly and powerfully.
Speaker ABecause the things.
Speaker AIt is almost always the tough stuff that we have that shape our character and that causes us to blossom and grow.
Speaker AIt's not the successes, it's the things that at the moment feel like terrifying and bad.
Speaker AAnd our ability, I mean, being divine beings, we have that DNA.
Speaker ASo why is it shocking that we can create awesomeness?
Speaker AWhy is that a surprise?
Speaker AIt shouldn't be and it can't be.
Speaker AThat's amazing.
Speaker ASo you're right.
Speaker AWe're about to get toward the end.
Speaker AWhat else would you like to share as teaching, as lesson from your own experiences, from.
Speaker ABecause I love your passion and the stories and the truth of your, of your expression.
Speaker AAnd truth carries its own power.
Speaker ASo what didn't I ask you that you'd like to share?
Speaker BThe one thing that I can say, and this is what I struggle with, and this is why I'm so passionate about my, what I do as far as the LEGO activities, the LEGO workshops, talking about narrative live.
Speaker BThe reason why I'm so passionate about all of those things is it all hinges on this one key.
Speaker BI grew up really alone.
Speaker BI grew up believing that I was the only one going through challenges, trials, issues.
Speaker BThere are many, many times, and I can go back and recite many stories where I thought, well, I'm the only one that has to do this.
Speaker BI'm the only one that can do this.
Speaker BWhen I say this, I'm not even kidding.
Speaker BI literally unloaded an entire trailer full of household goods, all the furniture, sofa, everything.
Speaker BI did it by myself and repacked it into a garage because nobody else would help me, me.
Speaker BAnd I mentally just put my mind to it.
Speaker BSo I know from experience that you can overcome a lot.
Speaker BBut here's the, here's the thing that I want to make sure.
Speaker BI, I, I express, I did it out of a false belief or a false narrative, that I was the only one.
Speaker BIf I would have taken the time to look and ask for help, I didn't have to do it alone.
Speaker BSo many people go through this world, through this life, believing that they're the only ones going through that because they're afraid to either ask or they believe that everybody else's life is perfect and that because they have problems, they're the only one.
Speaker BAnd so therefore I can't share.
Speaker BThat's so, so much a false narrative.
Speaker BAnd I wish I could break that.
Speaker BBecause if we can get past this aspect and be able to be humble enough to reach out and ask for help, the whole world can change for you.
Speaker BThe whole world can open up into this huge thing that you don't even know is possible.
Speaker BBut if you stay under that lie, that false narrative that you're the only one going through, whatever it is that you're going through, nobody can really help because you will not break out of your own soul.
Speaker BYou won't break out of your own box.
Speaker BSo that's the one thing that if I could express more than anything else, is just know that you're not alone.
Speaker BThere are people out there that want and are able to help.
Speaker BAnd all you have to do is either pick up the phone or reach out via email or just contact somebody because there's people there that are desperate and want to be able to help you because they've gone through it and they know exactly how you're feeling.
Speaker AThank you for sharing that.
Speaker AI 100% agree.
Speaker AI'm the only one is a common, common, common theme when we do coaching or when we talk to people.
Speaker AOh, I'm not the only one.
Speaker AOh, that is so true that people think that and so not true that you're not alone and so true that there is help in people willing and anxious and excited and would be delighted for the opportunity to share and lift and be with you.
Speaker ATim, I want to thank you for your passion, for your love and for who you're being in the world, both for yourself, to your clients, to your boys, and everyone that is impacted by the truth of your being.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker BYeah, thank you.
Speaker BThanks for having me.
Speaker BAnd this has been incredible.
Speaker BI mean, I.
Speaker BI love hearing from people, yourselves as well as anybody that's listening.
Speaker BSo please reach out.
Speaker BI'd love to hear you.
Speaker AHow's the best way to get a hold of you?
Speaker BThe best way is email timcroll.com or LinkedIn.
Speaker BThose are the two easiest way.
Speaker BI'm on there all the time, except for when I'm disconnected.
Speaker BI do take those sabbaticals.
Speaker BOther than that, I'm here, I'm available, and I love being able to hear those words and, and people just.
Speaker BEven if it's just to ask me a question, man, that's what I love to do if it gives me so much fulfillment.
Speaker BI have a statement up here says how who have I impacted today?
Speaker BAnd I live by that.
Speaker BI just want to leave an impact.
Speaker BAnd if somebody asks a question, I'm more than willing to connect with you.
Speaker AI want to emphasize that Tim means it when he says that.
Speaker AI know him.
Speaker AI know him from several interviews and also because over the years, I've become good at reading people's energy.
Speaker AI want you to listen to this a couple of times.
Speaker ATim talks fast and that's good because there's a lot packed in there and that's okay.
Speaker AGo through it, take some notes, listen to what resonates for you and discover your uniqueness.
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