Why Are We Struggling? The Truth About Education Today
Tired of the hype about living the dream? We're diving into some real talk about education and how we can actually make a difference! With the ever-dwindling standardized test scores, it’s time to shake things up and figure out how to restore joy in learning.
We’re joined by the fabulous Trish Wilkinson, who’s on a mission to transform classrooms into happy learning spaces through five brain-friendly practices that engage kids and make teaching a blast! So, whether you're a parent, a teacher, or just someone who loves a good giggle and wants to see real change, stick around as we unpack these tools and get ready to create a life filled with purpose, prosperity, and joy. Let’s jump in and figure out how we can serve our kids and empower them to thrive!
Takeaways:
- This episode emphasizes the importance of finding joy in education and creating engaging learning environments for students.
- Trish Wilkinson shares her mission to improve children's learning and restore joy in education through simple, effective practices.
- The conversation highlights the need for teachers to incorporate social and emotional learning into their classrooms to foster better student outcomes.
- Listeners are encouraged to understand their purpose in learning, which can significantly enhance their engagement and motivation.
More About Trish:
Trish talked about her book: Brain Stages: How to Raise Smart, Confident Kids and Have Fun Doing It, K-5 - available on Amazon at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L75KY7B/ (kindle version).
Visit her website to learn more about her amazing programs for parents: thebrainstages.com
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00:00 - None
00:09 - Creating Your Ultimate Life
00:46 - Introduction to Educational Challenges and Solutions
18:44 - Preparing Students for Learning: The Importance of Purpose and Process
23:24 - The Importance of Leadership in Education
41:48 - The Journey of Education and Empowerment
Welcome to the show.
Speaker ATired of the hype about living the dream?
Speaker AIt's time for truth.
Speaker AThis is the place for tools, power and real talk so you can create the life you dream and deserve your ultimate life.
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Speaker AYou have infinite power.
Speaker AHello, and welcome to this episode of your ultimate life Life.
Speaker AThe podcast is dedicated to one thing, and that's to help you create a life that you love.
Speaker AA life of purpose, prosperity, and joy by serving with the gifts and life experience that you have today.
Speaker AI'm grateful to have Trish Wilkinson as a guest.
Speaker AWelcome to the show, Trish.
Speaker BHi.
Speaker BI'm excited to be here.
Speaker BI love this podcast.
Speaker BI mean, I've listened to a whole bunch of episodes and I thought, I get to be a guest on this podcast.
Speaker BI feel very grateful and privileged.
Speaker AWell, I'm grateful and privileged to have you here.
Speaker AOne of the things that I think is, you know, we were just talking beforehand about the, the journey each, each person has.
Speaker AAnd some people are overcome by their journeys and they're destroyed and others, you know, things happen to them and instead of ruining them that they let those things refine them.
Speaker AAnd how we got where we are to having a passion and a story and I know your passion will explore as we go along is really the, the blessing that we have to offer others how we got there, because people see us at the top of something and they think, ooh, that's cool, but I could never do that.
Speaker AAnd they don't know how you got there.
Speaker AAnd that, that sharing of that is so powerful.
Speaker AIt's literally the power that we have.
Speaker AAnyway, so the first question I want to ask you as we start is I don't want you to be bashful at all.
Speaker AI want you to be open and effusive, as it were.
Speaker AAnd I want you to tell us how Trish is adding good to the world.
Speaker BWell, so I'm on a mission, actually, Kellen.
Speaker AI want to hear all about it.
Speaker BSo I'm on a mission to restore joy in education and improve kids learning because we just got another, we being the United States just got another set of scores out.
Speaker BYou know, the, the scores that they take the standardized tests and they're the lowest in math and reading ever.
Speaker BAnd it's been, we've been really struggling.
Speaker BAnd some schools, you know, it depends on the school and the area and all of those things, but some schools are.
Speaker BSo some are doing better than others.
Speaker BBut right now, overall as a country, we're really struggling.
Speaker BIt was, we were struggling before COVID then Covid hit.
Speaker BAnd now it's worse than ever.
Speaker BEven though we're working on things like social and emotional learning and trying to understand where kids are and helping them develop the social skills and manage their emotions and develop empathy and all those kinds of things.
Speaker BBut teachers don't have time for a whole new curriculum.
Speaker BThey already didn't have time in their schedules to do all the other things that they're asked to do by administrators.
Speaker ASo I want to ask you something.
Speaker AI want you.
Speaker AKeep going.
Speaker AJust put a comma right there.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AHow.
Speaker AHow do we compare?
Speaker AYou said it's the lowest it's been in forever.
Speaker AHow do we compare with other countries, European countries or Scandinavian countries?
Speaker AHow do we compare with those?
Speaker AIn those same.
Speaker AAre the scores such that they're comparable?
Speaker AHow do you.
Speaker AHow do we tell.
Speaker BSo we're not taking the same tests all over the world so we can kind of, you know, look at their scores and what's on their test versus our scores and what's on our tests?
Speaker BIt's not exactly comparing apples and oranges.
Speaker BI mean, it's kind of comparing apples and oranges, but at least it's all fruit, if that makes sense.
Speaker AYeah, it does.
Speaker AAnd that's a good way to say it.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd we are not, in our country, not doing as well as, you know, places in Europe and various other places.
Speaker ASo I thought that.
Speaker AAnd I want you.
Speaker AI'm going on a thread here, and I want you to come with me.
Speaker AAnd that is.
Speaker AI thought I.
Speaker AI made that up.
Speaker AI didn't know that.
Speaker AI thought that might be true.
Speaker AAnd you said, you know, they're trying to have all these curriculums of emotional wellness and these skills and that skills.
Speaker ADo those schools in Europe that we're comparing to, do they teach all that stuff?
Speaker BSo they teach a certain amount of it.
Speaker BThey call it social hygiene or social and emotional hygiene, something like that.
Speaker BAnd my daughter taught English in Cali, Columbia, for six months.
Speaker BAnd when she was in the schools there, they actually have a curriculum that they work on social and emotional hygiene.
Speaker BSo they're doing that in other countries.
Speaker BBut I feel like in our country, we've gotten so into, you know, off on tangents as to, you know, who's what gender and how people identify and all kinds of all kinds of other things.
Speaker BAnd the bottom line is we just want people to be empathetic and care about other people.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker ASo that was my question.
Speaker AThat was my thread.
Speaker AThe thread was, we're not doing so well in the world.
Speaker AI realize there's some apples and oranges, they do some of what we do, but not enough.
Speaker AWe've got a bunch of tangents that it seems like we're going on.
Speaker AAnd so my fundamental question that made me wander down that thread is if we suck, why do we suck?
Speaker AI mean, we have technology, we have wealth, we have all this, why are we, why are we struggling?
Speaker AAnd I realize that teachers are overwhelmed and you're going to talk more about that later in terms of implementing what you want to help them understand.
Speaker ABut why are we struggling so much?
Speaker BYou know, to me.
Speaker BSo here's a little anecdotal experience, okay?
Speaker BSo I approached a school district and said, look, I have these five brain friendly practices that we could do in the classroom.
Speaker BThat we could do exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker BCreate the environment for social and emotional learning kids, you know, restore joy and education for both kids and teachers because they know the kids are stressed out, the teachers are stressed out.
Speaker BAnd we've had this, these studies because all the five practices are science based.
Speaker BAnd the reason I just discovered them is because I was teaching at the same school where my children were going to school in elementary school.
Speaker BAnd my kids, my own children, I felt like they were failing.
Speaker BI had one kid who was super anxious all the time.
Speaker BShe wet her pants a lot.
Speaker BWe had to have, you know, into second and third grade, we had to just bring extra clothes to school for her because she just was having such a hard time functioning.
Speaker BAnd then my, my other daughter had attention issues and auditory processing issues.
Speaker BAnd, you know, so here I'm supposed to be an expert with kids and my own are just not doing so well.
Speaker BSo I thought, I, I have to figure this out.
Speaker BSo I talked to, you know, I talked to their pediatrician first.
Speaker BI read all these books and articles and studies and you know, I talked to a neurologist and psychologists and you get the idea.
Speaker BI just went on this quest.
Speaker BI was like, I gotta help these kids.
Speaker BThese are my own kids.
Speaker BAnd my husband was like, okay, you're doing all this stuff for everybody else's kids, but ours are really struggling and you're the expert, I don't really know what to do.
Speaker BAnd I was just like, I'm having a hard time figuring that out myself.
Speaker BSo, so basically I did a lot of these things with my own children and it worked really well.
Speaker BOur younger daughter stopped wetting her pants.
Speaker BShe developed confidence.
Speaker BShe actually graduated valedictorian in her high school in an international baccalaureate program.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BAnd the, the other daughter ended up doing way better.
Speaker BAnd, and she's a very successful software engineer now, which if you'd have told me my kids would be so successful, I would have laughed.
Speaker BI would have said, well, I hope you're right because, because that's not how things were going at the time.
Speaker BSo when we were talking earlier and you were saying, you know, your own story, there's a reason that we get to where we are.
Speaker BBut the, but the thing that happened after that is I was like, you know, if this stuff works so well for my own children, maybe it'll work in my classroom.
Speaker BAnd so I just plugged in these five brain friendly practices into my classroom and just amazing, amazing things happen.
Speaker ASo we started, I started with the question, how are you adding good to the world?
Speaker AAnd you started telling me about these practices.
Speaker AAnd then I took us off on a tangent about how come our school system's in so much trouble.
Speaker BI think we're asking teachers to do so many things and, and there's been so much technology that's been taking the place of, of human communication and we're figuring, and a lot of this technology in the last, you know, couple of generations, it's still fairly new, even though it's so much a part of our lives.
Speaker BLike, you know, look how we're talking now, right?
Speaker BAnd even having a meeting and looking at each other, I mean, on the podcast they don't see that.
Speaker BBut the point is, is we have this technology now where we can do all kinds of things that we weren't able to do before.
Speaker BBut now society is adjusting.
Speaker BHow are we, how do we engage kids?
Speaker BLike people are always saying things about gen Zers, you know, Generation Z, how they don't have an attention span and they, you know, just all these disparaging things, they, they don't.
Speaker BAnyway, the point is gen zers just don't have the patience to do things that in their opinion don't have a purpose if they don't have a why, if they don't have a reason for doing so.
Speaker BOne of the practices is to help kids tell them what they're going to learn, put it into an AI because you know, ChatGPT or you know, whatever you're using and say, how can an 8 year old child use elapsed time in their life if that's a math concept or how can a 15 year old use this geometric concept in their life and it'll spit out all of this stuff and the kids look at it and go, oh my gosh, I can use this in all these ways, and then we say, yeah, pick a couple of them.
Speaker BAnd, you know, that resonate with you.
Speaker BStart asking questions in your mind like, you know, what would this look like if I was doing this in my life?
Speaker BAnd be thinking about that as you're learning this material, it, it just turns it all upside down.
Speaker BI mean, the, the teachers who are doing this, and for me, myself, I used to feel like Sisyphus, you know, rolling the rock up the hill, trying to get the kids engaged.
Speaker BAnd then the next thing I knew is rolling back on top of my head, right?
Speaker BYou know, they're all staring out the window and so.
Speaker BYeah, but again, helping them define a purpose for what they're learning and how they're going to use it.
Speaker BI, I just don't even have to think about engagement anymore.
Speaker BThey're engaged because they have a reason.
Speaker BThey know the why we're not teaching things out of context anymore because they have a purpose for learning it.
Speaker AAnd then there's a couple of really good things I want to, I'm sticking in here.
Speaker AThere's a couple of really good things.
Speaker AOne is the shift to the context.
Speaker AMeaning you're saying at least that group must have a reason or it's.
Speaker AThey don't have, they don't have patience for it.
Speaker AAnd that probably comes to some degree from the immediacy of technology and everything else.
Speaker AAnd that's a very interesting thing.
Speaker AAnd then the outcome of that is as soon as they have it, then the engagement happens of itself.
Speaker ASo I want you to tell me, I want you to tell us the five brain friendly practices.
Speaker ATell me what they are that changes the world, changes the game, changes in the classroom.
Speaker AWhat are they?
Speaker BSo the first one is we give kids five.
Speaker BWell, if they're elementary school, we can give them 10 minutes of exercise and last them all day.
Speaker BYou know, we used to walk to school or ride our bikes or whatever.
Speaker BNow we drop the kids off, they take the bus, right?
Speaker BSo basically they're coming to school and their, their brains are asleep.
Speaker BBut you can't do that in middle school or high school.
Speaker BYou only have the kids for like 50 minutes, unless you're doing block scheduling.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo I have them do it for like 90 seconds if they want to spend a little longer than they can, but even 90 seconds of exercise.
Speaker BAnd I have all kinds of fun little things that they can do with kids, all kinds of movement that they can do with kids to just raise their heartbeat enough so that the oxygen gets to their brain, all the chemicals start, you know, Start moving the way they're supposed to.
Speaker BIn their brain, their electrons start.
Speaker BOr their electrons.
Speaker BThey're.
Speaker BNeurons start firing.
Speaker ANeurons.
Speaker AThere we go.
Speaker BYeah, the neurons.
Speaker BSo that their neural pathways are all firing.
Speaker BSo it gets their brains in gear and think about it even.
Speaker BAnd usually the movement is a little bit silly.
Speaker BSo in the beginning they're like, I'm not going to do this.
Speaker BAnd then everyone else is doing it, and so they start doing it.
Speaker BAnd there's this mirror neuron thing that happens.
Speaker BSo the teacher is doing it, so they're doing it.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd a lot of it has to do with the, you know, with the teachers.
Speaker BWell, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that.
Speaker BA teacher told me, and I said, so, do you want your kids engaged?
Speaker BI mean, I get that it's uncomfortable, but, you know, doing something that might make you a little uncomfortable or think of things that you'll feel more comfortable doing.
Speaker BIf you don't like that idea for doing that particular physical exercise, let's think of some things that'll work for you that you'll feel comfortable doing.
Speaker AWake up.
Speaker AWake up.
Speaker AThe body, whether it's 10 minutes or 90 seconds depends on context and who you're doing and everything.
Speaker ABut wake up and get stuff moving.
Speaker AAll right, what's number two?
Speaker BNumber two is water.
Speaker BSo our brains are 73% water.
Speaker BAnd most kids come to school of all ages dehydrated.
Speaker BSo one of the reasons we eat breakfast and the things kids eat for breakfast, sometimes they come, you know, without any food in their bellies.
Speaker BSometimes they've just had an energy drink.
Speaker BThey need water.
Speaker BThere is no substitute for water.
Speaker BSo I have them all bring their own personalized water bottle with their name on it to school.
Speaker BAnd they get a couple of swigs of water before they start.
Speaker BBecause a lot of times when kids complain about headaches or they're tired or they have a stomachache or any of those things, a lot of them are just signs of dehydration.
Speaker BAnd if we can just give kids not so much that they're running to the bathroom every five minutes.
Speaker BBecause I made that mistake when I first started doing it.
Speaker AI imagine you did.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I started it with fourth grade, and they were so excited about being able to have a water bottle and drinking it all the time.
Speaker BThey.
Speaker BThey were just running the.
Speaker BBut we worked that out within the first week.
Speaker BI said, okay, we gotta modify this.
Speaker BAnd I had the kids help me.
Speaker BSo what does that look like?
Speaker BSo, but so now it's just okay, everybody take a couple of swigs of water.
Speaker BYou know, not too much.
Speaker BWe, you know, you know what we're talking about here.
Speaker BSo they just take a couple of swigs of water and I can't even tell you the difference.
Speaker BJust a little bit of water makes.
Speaker BIt's crazy.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BBut it, so, but it's how our brains work.
Speaker AYeah, 73%.
Speaker AYeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker AAll right, one, two, at move, wake up, have a little water.
Speaker AKeep your brain, you know, hydrated.
Speaker AAnd what's number three?
Speaker BNumber three is we play a little brain game because we never know where, how kids come into the classroom.
Speaker BAnd the cool thing about the brain games is that like, for example, one of the things I love to do is play with them.
Speaker BAdd a move, and we also do like, add a sound.
Speaker BI make a move, then we make the same move and a kid makes another move.
Speaker BThen we make another move and we keep adding moves.
Speaker BBecause one of the things that does is it improves working memory, which is executive brain function.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut the other thing it does is if the kid just had somebody say something mean to them in the hallway, or they got in trouble that morning, or they had a fight with their big sister or whatever the case may be, they come in from all kinds of different situations.
Speaker BAnd what happens is, is when they're focused on a little game like that, and all these little games are funny, so it just allows them to relax.
Speaker BIt takes at least 90 seconds to work through the cortisol, the stress hormone in your brain and replace it with dopamine and other happy hormones.
Speaker BAnd so we just play a 90 second brain game and then we take three deep breaths, because those deep breaths are a trigger.
Speaker BBecause after you've been doing this for a while, then they know, oh, we're getting into learning.
Speaker BSo what we've done, and I call these first three practices, we prepare kids brains for learning.
Speaker BSo elementary school, they'll do it.
Speaker BIf they do 10 minutes of exercise, it's 14 minutes.
Speaker BIf they do it in middle or high school, it's four minutes because they're only doing 90 seconds of exercise and they're.
Speaker BAnd then they're taking a swig of water and they're doing 90 seconds of a brain game and then the deep breaths.
Speaker BSo it's super practical.
Speaker BAnd that four minutes saves so much time because their brains are ready to go.
Speaker AI believe you.
Speaker AYou know, I.
Speaker APeople talk about that.
Speaker AAnd I, you know, you and I have talked before, or at least I've talked about it in places where you've been about morning rituals and how we prepare ourselves for the day.
Speaker AAnd mine's long, two and a half hours.
Speaker AAnd people say I don't have that kind of time.
Speaker AAnd the answer is, creates five hours.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker ASo, exactly, you know, whatever.
Speaker ASo I can't, I love this.
Speaker AKeep going.
Speaker AWhat's number four?
Speaker ASo you've prepared my brain for learning, then what?
Speaker BSo it's prepare, purpose, process.
Speaker BSo the next thing we do is we get the beginning of the week, we give kids a purpose for what they're going to be learning.
Speaker BSo at middle school or high school, they know basically what they're going to be covering in that subject.
Speaker BSo if they're teaching a concept in math or they're, they're teaching about a period in social studies or if they're reading something, you get the idea in elementary school.
Speaker BElementary school they learn to do it, you know, much quicker because they're teaching a lot of subjects.
Speaker BSo they do this several times, maybe on a Monday, but then they don't do it again until Friday.
Speaker BAnd what happens when we give kids a pregnancy purpose for their learning?
Speaker BEliminate.
Speaker BSo when I was doing it, when I first started doing this, we didn't have any AI, so we had to come up, I had to look things up ahead of time.
Speaker BI would ask the kids what they thought, we'd brainstorm.
Speaker BIt took way longer, but now it takes like five minutes because now we just use like Chat GBT or one of the other AIs and we say how can an 8 year old third grader or 8 or 9 year old third grader use this particular math concept in their life?
Speaker BOr we're, we're reading this story because Chat GBT has everything, right?
Speaker BSo we're reading this story and it has these themes and a lot of times you know, Chat GPT will know, you know, they'll even be familiar with the story.
Speaker BHow can an 8 year old student, a 6 year old student, 12 year old student, however old the kid is, use this, the concepts in this story in their lives and it'll just spit out 10, 10 ways it does that.
Speaker AAnd I love that.
Speaker AI'll, I use that too.
Speaker AI'm not going to describe it because it'll just take too long, but I do.
Speaker ASo number five, so you gave them a purpose, you prepared the brain, you gave him a purpose.
Speaker BI want to say one more thing about purpose because this is really important.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker BThey have to look at the list and they have to choose what resonates with them.
Speaker BWe can't say, see all these great things it does for you.
Speaker BWe need to take the extra two minutes to say, let's go over the list and.
Speaker BAnd you write down in your journal what resonates with you, what is important to you.
Speaker BHow do you think you might use this in your life and know that throughout the week you may spark something else and think, oh, now this is my purpose.
Speaker BYour purpose might change, but what's really important for you to do is know what we're going to be learning and then have a reason to learn it.
Speaker BYou have your why.
Speaker BThat's your purpose.
Speaker BBecause think about how much better our lives are when we have purpose, no matter what we're doing.
Speaker BSo I wanted to say that before we moved on, because this is a really important step.
Speaker AYeah, it is.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker ASo number five.
Speaker BNumber five is process.
Speaker BSo at the end of the week, we talk about, you know, it's thinking about thinking.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BAt the.
Speaker BAt the end of the week, we allow their brains an opportunity to process what they learned.
Speaker BAnd I just would set the timer, and they would write in their journal.
Speaker BOkay, we, you know, for this story that we've learned, what have you learned?
Speaker BAnd how do you think you can use those concepts in your life?
Speaker BHere's the timer.
Speaker BI'm setting it for five minutes.
Speaker BReady, go.
Speaker BAnd they write for five minutes.
Speaker BAnd then.
Speaker BAnd you have to modify it for different age groups.
Speaker BAnd, you know, I get all that, but for the sake of the podcast, so.
Speaker BSo they write in a journal, and then the timer goes off, and then they get a partner.
Speaker BAnd I would encourage them to get different partners each time.
Speaker BAnd so they're sharing what they learned and how they're going to use it.
Speaker BAnd I would hear in the classroom at first, in the beginning, I would hear, oh, my gosh, I didn't even think of that.
Speaker BI'm going to put that in my journal.
Speaker BAnd then another kid would say, hey, you can't use that.
Speaker BThat was my idea.
Speaker BAnd I'd say, wait, so you don't want to be a leader?
Speaker BAnd they'd say, what do you mean?
Speaker BAnd I'd say, that's literally what being a leader is.
Speaker BSomebody sees what you're doing, they see something, and they go, wow, that's awesome.
Speaker BI want to do that, too.
Speaker BAnd that's exactly what being a leader is.
Speaker BAnd they're like, oh, yeah, okay, you can put that in your journal.
Speaker BAnd I say, I would encourage all of you that if you hear something that you didn't think of to Put in your journal, definitely add it.
Speaker BBecause our world.
Speaker BWould you agree that our world needs some good leaders?
Speaker BAnd they're like, oh, yeah.
Speaker BAnd I'd say, okay, well, so let's have everyone in this classroom be a good leader, come up with good ideas that people want to follow that.
Speaker BThat people can hang on to, that you can contribute to other people.
Speaker BSo then they start doing this.
Speaker BSo those are the five practices, and here's the magic.
Speaker BYou ready?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AGive me the magic.
Speaker BSo when they've been doing this for a few weeks, like the third or fourth week, I have the teachers and what I did is start handing it off to the kids.
Speaker BSo in the beginning, does it take a little longer because you're planning it, it's something new.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut then you start handing it off to the kids.
Speaker BSo it's a student who leads the physical exercise, and it's a student who leads, you know, reminding everybody to get a drink of water.
Speaker BThey lead the brain game.
Speaker BThey lead coming up with a purpose.
Speaker BThey put the information into.
Speaker BInto an AI and they come up, you know, they have it come up on the screen because they have these big screens in the classrooms now.
Speaker BAnd they come up on the big screen, it all, you know, spits it out, and they can read it all.
Speaker BAnd they're the ones that are running it.
Speaker BAnd then it's a student that runs the process.
Speaker BOkay, everybody, we're gonna do.
Speaker BWe're gonna process what we learned about this and this subject, whatever they're doing this week.
Speaker BSo everybody get out your journals.
Speaker BThey lead it, and we let them know, guys, we really need your support.
Speaker BAnd you start with your gregarious, really outgoing kids.
Speaker BAnd you say, make sure you're really kind to the people who are up here leading it.
Speaker BBecause everyone in here gets a turn to do every one of these practices.
Speaker BAnd then I would have kids design a chart for who gets to do it, what date, and when they're going to do it.
Speaker BAnd if somebody's anxious about it, they can work with each other on.
Speaker BOn being anxious.
Speaker BHow can you feel about it?
Speaker BAnd we work on.
Speaker BLike, that's one of the things about the breathing, the brain games, that kind of stuff.
Speaker BSo it's.
Speaker BSo it's all it.
Speaker BThe social and emotional learning is embedded with the academic learning.
Speaker AWell, certainly, because they're leading it.
Speaker ASo that's fabulous.
Speaker ASo I'm really excited.
Speaker BThat's when the magic happens.
Speaker ABecause just consider.
Speaker BBecause at first, you know, they can, you know, they can tease each other a little.
Speaker BAnd I'll say, okay, you gotta know what comes around goes around.
Speaker BYou're gonna have a turn to do this.
Speaker BDo you want people to get.
Speaker BAnd they're like, oh, never mind.
Speaker BGood job.
Speaker BRight, right, right, right.
Speaker BAnd, well, and the other thing is then the gregarious kids have been up.
Speaker BA real shy kid comes up.
Speaker BThey're nervous as heck.
Speaker BThey come up and the.
Speaker BAnd the kids go, I know, I was nervous too.
Speaker BYou can totally do this.
Speaker BSo it becomes this very supportive, amazing environment.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd the first year I did this, I did it with a really rough class that I was like, oh, my gosh, I don't know how I'm going to get through this school year.
Speaker BI don't know how I'm going to get through this week, much less the school year.
Speaker BAnd it ended up, you know, we ended up getting the highest scores and in the school for our grade level.
Speaker BAnd the following year when I did this in sixth grade, we got the highest scores in the district.
Speaker BAnd it wasn't me that I'm so amazing.
Speaker BThat's why I'm teaching other people to do it.
Speaker ASo thank you.
Speaker AI think.
Speaker AI know it took some minutes to do all that.
Speaker AI'm really grateful because what occurs to me is, yeah, you're putting that in as a practice for school, but it's also a practice for anyone and everyone because our brain's still.
Speaker AThe brain.
Speaker AProcessing.
Speaker AStill processing.
Speaker AHaving a purpose is still having a purpose.
Speaker ASo I want you.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker ASo I want to know how you told me a little bit like, you had your own kids and they were having trouble and you figured this stuff out so that it would work for them and then for your own class, and that worked.
Speaker AWhat is it?
Speaker AI mean, now your kids are grown up and they're all successful and you win.
Speaker ASo what is it that's in Trisha's heart that makes her now an evangelist that is committed to helping other people learn this.
Speaker ALike, why is that so important in your heart?
Speaker BBecause I see so many people suffering.
Speaker BWe are losing so many teachers who are just exhausted and overwhelmed and feeling like I can't get these kids engaged.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd kids are so anxious and, and.
Speaker BAnd the thing is, is these are such simple processes.
Speaker BLike, we look at this pro.
Speaker BThese problems that we're having in education, not just here in the United States.
Speaker BIt's happening all over the place because I do a lot of international stuff.
Speaker BSo it's not just the United States.
Speaker BIt's happening everywhere.
Speaker BAnd we look at this as, like, almost like it's an Insurmountable problem.
Speaker BAnd it's not.
Speaker BAnd it's actually, you know.
Speaker BAnd are these only these five practices the only things that we need to do?
Speaker BWell, maybe not the only things, but if everybody's doing these five practices, oh my gosh, what a difference it would make.
Speaker BAnd then there are other things to add to it.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo my passion is we don't need to be in the state we're in, in this, in this country, in this world, as far as education, people can learn to be problem solvers again.
Speaker BPeople can learn to, to instead of living out of fear, you know, we talk, we hear about the, the polls between love and fear.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd we can operate a lot more out of love if we take a lot of the fear away.
Speaker BAnd, and these practices, that's what it helps them do.
Speaker BIt helps the kids build self confidence.
Speaker BThey start working together and becoming a community.
Speaker BIt's what, what's burning in my heart is.
Speaker BI feel like this is a program, a problem that we can solve.
Speaker BWe can improve communication and we can improve education all over the planet, and we can use the technology in a positive way that instead of separating us, it can bring us together, you know, just like using it for purpose.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AAnd so I know that you have been on a mission to get it in school districts, and you've told me before that, that, you know, teachers are overwhelmed and they have too many things and they can't.
Speaker ACan't do it.
Speaker ASo tell me a little bit about your journey, where you are now in terms of initial places, in terms of some beta testing, you know, to get some kind of rollout, like what kind of things are happening and does the recent, any of the recent political changes matter to you or is that indifferent?
Speaker AWhat's been your journey to get this in?
Speaker AAnd I know there's been a lot of frustration, but talk a little bit about that, because here's why I want that.
Speaker AI don't want the story of woe.
Speaker AAlthough it might sound like that sometimes.
Speaker AI want to highlight your own personal determination and commitment to make this happen.
Speaker ABecause the idea of creating your ultimate life of purpose, prosperity and joy is founded on a willingness to persevere and to do hard stuff and to keep going because nobody ever fell up the mountain.
Speaker ASo tell me a little bit about.
Speaker BThat journey because no one ever fell up the mountain.
Speaker BYeah, that gravity thing just really gets in the way.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BWell, I'm in the process of that right now, truthfully.
Speaker BI'm doing the second cohort with a Handful of teachers.
Speaker BAnd I'm actually working with co homeschooling parents as well, because homeschooling parents are having trouble with education, keeping their kids engaged just like everyone else.
Speaker BSo I really am looking at.
Speaker BLook, however kids are getting educated, I.
Speaker BI don't have any.
Speaker BYou know, some people are against charter schools, some people are.
Speaker BAgain, you know, there are all these opinions about all these things.
Speaker BFor me, I just want teachers, educators, whether they're parents or, you know, teachers at a charter, at a.
Speaker BI've worked with teachers at charter schools, private schools, public schools, wherever, all age groups now, elementary, middle school and high school.
Speaker BAnd we've had to modify the practices somewhat for age groups, but it's pretty universal that, wow, this, you're right.
Speaker BThis, this really works.
Speaker BWhat's really been difficult for me is teachers are so overwhelmed.
Speaker BThey're just like, I can't do one more thing.
Speaker BAnd I just say to them, oh my gosh, this will save you so much time and you'll feel so much better.
Speaker BBut, but they are, they feel like they're just maxed out, that they don't have any more to give, and they feel like learning something new would be one more thing.
Speaker BSo I'm.
Speaker BAnd I will tell you, I've almost quit this lots of times.
Speaker BI mean, and every time something else will happen, I'll go.
Speaker BAnd it's like the universe is laughing at me going, you're not getting out of this.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BBecause it is really hard, and I feel like I've done all this work.
Speaker BI have made very little money doing it, but it's a labor of love for me.
Speaker BSo, you know, I really want to see education improved.
Speaker BI.
Speaker BI mean, I want teachers to go back to where I started.
Speaker BWhen I first started teaching, I was like, oh my gosh, they're paying me for this.
Speaker BThis is so much fun.
Speaker BAnd I felt like that in the beginning because I bring in my guitar and my rhythm instruments.
Speaker BI taught a bunch of stuff with, you know, music and, you know, I'd make up songs, they'd make up songs.
Speaker BSo my little kids, when I taught first grade, it was a great way for them to learn to read.
Speaker BIt was a great way for my second language students who were learning English to learn English.
Speaker BAnd, and I love music, so.
Speaker BSo I was just like, I can't believe they're paying me for this.
Speaker BBut then I too was just like, you know, they pile more and more and more on that teachers have to do it.
Speaker BIt's exhausting.
Speaker BAnd I thought, I don't know.
Speaker BAnd then it came to a head when I had this really difficult fourth grade class and I thought, I don't know what I'm going to do.
Speaker BAnd then I started plugging these things and went, holy mackerel, this is ridiculous.
Speaker BSo, I mean, my passion in doing all this is that I know it's surmountable.
Speaker BI know that it can work, but it is hard.
Speaker BI'm in my second cohort and I only have a handful of teachers that I'm working with right now.
Speaker BAnd I really am looking for a school.
Speaker BI feel like once I get a school, I talk to the administrator, I talk to the teachers, tell them what's expected in the fall and really get them going and excited about it and show them that it's a lot easier than they think it would be and that it's going to take them less time, not more.
Speaker BAnd then they get to enjoy their jobs again and they're.
Speaker BAnd they increase their scores and, you know, just all of that, because I feel like the community of a whole school doing this stuff together would also create just amazing miracles rather than just having teachers here and there.
Speaker BBut I haven't been able to find that yet.
Speaker BI'm looking.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI want to know people that are listening.
Speaker AI want to.
Speaker AI want two things from you now.
Speaker AAnd that is where.
Speaker AWhere can someone go right now to whether they're a homeschooling parent listening to this or a person that's affiliated with education in some way.
Speaker AWhere can they go to read more about this, your website, or some explanation of this?
Speaker ADo you have a place where they can go and take a look and learn a little bit?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BSo they can go to the brainstages.com and go to the Empowered School tab.
Speaker BIt's called the Empowered School Project.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AThat is thebrainstages.com and the empowered School Project.
Speaker AAnd, you know, I've had the.
Speaker AThe privilege of having, you know, conversations with you about this and hearing some of this, although I'd never heard you describe the five things like you did this time.
Speaker AAnd I'm excited for it, too.
Speaker AAnd I.
Speaker AI have this, this sort of foreboding sense about, you know, this thing we call education that isn't very functional now, and I'm not even involved in it, but I just have this feeling and I love the idea of returning some joy and some fun.
Speaker AAnd my sister taught second grade for 20 years before she went back and got her PhD and then ended up teaching at university.
Speaker ABut, you know, she did a lot of Things in music and stuff.
Speaker ABut that was years ago, and it doesn't feel like that kind of stuff.
Speaker AYou know, that spontaneity or anything gets to happen anymore.
Speaker AAm I nuts or is that real?
Speaker BI think it depends on the teacher.
Speaker BI know teachers, like, even this is a story.
Speaker BSo at one point I had to.
Speaker BOur school district said that teachers had to write the standards on the board for what they were teaching that day.
Speaker BAnd, you know, I always had pretty good scores, and a lot of it was because I taught with other modalities like art and music and whatever.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BSo the principal would do a walkthrough and he'd say, I don't see your standards on the board.
Speaker BAnd I'd say, so what do you want me to cut out?
Speaker BLike, I help with the running club, you know, I listed all the things I do in the school.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd I said, so what would you like me to do to cut out so that I can take the time to make sure that I get the standards up there for, you know, for what I'm teaching?
Speaker BBecause I already do this purpose thing that has meaning for the kids much more than the standard, you know, the jargon basically, that the standards use.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo what was the answer?
Speaker BAnd he said, actually, I would like you to keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker BAnd, and let's.
Speaker BI said, and you know what?
Speaker BJust look at my scores at the end of the year, and if you're not happy, then we can have another discussion.
Speaker BI don't want to be insubordinate or, you know, difficult in any way, but I can't take any more time from my family.
Speaker BI just.
Speaker BThere has to be a boundary there.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo he said, well, okay, we'll see what happens.
Speaker BAnd by.
Speaker BBy mid year, he was having all these people marching through my classroom to see what I was doing because I was doing the practices right.
Speaker BAnd so they would watch what I was doing.
Speaker BDifferent people from different, you know, newer teachers from different schools, administrators, you know, I love it.
Speaker ASo I want to ask you one.
Speaker AOne final, final thing.
Speaker ATwo final things, actually.
Speaker AOne is, I want.
Speaker AI understand the brain stages and empowered schools.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker AIf someone wants to find out more about.
Speaker ASee, I've.
Speaker AI've heard your journey now, and we talked in the beginning about the.
Speaker AHow you got where you are is the most important thing.
Speaker AAnd I'm fascinated.
Speaker AAnd so you said, well, gee, I don't have much of a story.
Speaker AAnd I.
Speaker AI would just flat out disagree.
Speaker ASo if somebody wants to know a little bit more about You.
Speaker AIs there any place that that's available, or do you.
Speaker AAre you only the school lady?
Speaker ALike, how can we find out more about how you got where?
Speaker BI'm not sure.
Speaker BI mean, I haven't written a book on that.
Speaker BI mean, I wrote Brain Stages, how to Raise Smart, Confident Kids and have Fun Doing It.
Speaker BAnd in there, there are quote unquote, real deal stories that talk about several experiences.
Speaker BWe have the name of that book.
Speaker AAgain, slower, because I want everybody to be able to hear that.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BIt's called Brain Stages, how to Raise Smart, Confident Kids and have Fun Doing It.
Speaker BI believe raising kids and educating kids should be fun.
Speaker BSo it's basically, this is kind of where your child's brain development is at this age, although all kids are different, obviously, but.
Speaker BAnd this is kind of where they are socially at this age.
Speaker BAnd this is what they're supposed to learn in this grade.
Speaker BKindergarten through five.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's kindergarten through fifth grade.
Speaker BAnd here are a whole bunch of fun games to play to make sure they get the need, their needs met, no matter what's going on at school.
Speaker BAnd a lot of teachers actually use that book because it has, you know, if they have kids who are having trouble learning something or they just want to change it up a little bit or whatever, and they're teaching a certain concept, then they'll play the games that are in the book because they don't require a lot of equipment or any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker BAnd it's just fun.
Speaker BThere's nutrition stuff.
Speaker BSo if they want to find out about me, there are several quote, unquote, real deal stories in there.
Speaker BAnd then there's more information, like, about me stuff on.
Speaker BOn my website.
Speaker AAll right, good.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker ASo the last question is, what didn't I ask you that you want people to know?
Speaker BI'm not exactly sure how to answer that.
Speaker BWhat didn't you ask?
Speaker BI don't know, because I feel like the most important message that I want people to get from this is if you are feeling upset about what's going on in our world right now, I want you to know that we have the tools, the technology, the research, all that stuff.
Speaker BWe have everything we need to recreate what's going on in our world.
Speaker BAnd like you said, like the five practices, I've had dads come up to me after parent presentations because I don't just do this for schools.
Speaker BI also do it for parents.
Speaker BAnd he said, you know, I have my own business, and I did this stuff with my staff.
Speaker BOh, my gosh, I can't believe the difference, he said.
Speaker BI can sure see how this works for kids.
Speaker AI can totally get on board with that.
Speaker ASo I want to thank you, Trish, for being here with us today, for being open and fun and making this a joyful and educating experience for me and for everybody.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker BWell, thanks for having me.
Speaker BI this is my passion, so I love to talk about it.
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