Transform Your Vibes: How Sound Frequencies Can Change Everything with Sam Kukathas

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Welcome to this episode of your ultimate life, the podcast dedicated exclusively to helping you create a life of purpose, prosperity, and joy by serving with the gifts that you have and your life experience.

I'm grateful today to have a special guest, Sam Kukothas, to join me, and we've been chatting just a little bit beforehand, and I can't wait.

So, Sam, welcome to the show.

Thank you so much, Kellen.

It's a pleasure to be here.

So one of the things that I love to ask to start with is kind of an interesting question, and that is, without being trying to be modest, some people feel like it's a little bit of a loaded question.

But I want you to tell the audience, how is it that Sam adds good to the world?

Sure.

So I've developed a technology called neuroresonance optimization, which is essentially able to transmute any challenge of the human condition.

And what that means is if someone's got a particular fear, we can go back to the source of where the fear is, not just in their own timeline, but also generationally clear it and have them harmonize so that they can operate from a different frequency.

And that means.

So if someone's experienced anxiety, we can go back to the source of where the anxiety comes from, and then they could step into a level of confidence which wasn't there because of the anxiety.

Right.

If you have something where you want to create the most audacious vision.

So the other day, someone saying, okay, I want to create this vision which is going to impact a billion people, and then it's like, all right, well, what's in the way of that actually being fulfilled?

And we look at all of the different recurring thoughts, fears, concerns which show up which are blocking that, as well as anything which is beyond one's own timeline.

We clear it using sound frequencies through my voice, and then from there, we activate an experience where they can experience that vision already being fulfilled, that we walk backwards into its creation in terms of what are the next steps.

So we can use it both in a macro way.

We can also use it in a micro way for the incremental steps along the way if someone is trying to actually build out the systems for creating what it is they want.

So that was a lot of very dense stuff.

I'm a sound engineer.

And I've owned a recording studio for 40 years and I have 90 something songs in commercial release and blah blah, blah.

And you don't know that.

And the audience, he didn't know that.

But when you talk about resonance and sound and harmonizing, it's really interesting because in the realm of music there are certain harmonics that belong to every frequency.

And since we all now have finally learned in physics that everything's energy, the idea of harmonizing resonance and getting rid of essentially dissonance, which is things that block, you know, the propagation of frequency is, is not only woo woo speak, which it is, we all know that, but it's also grounded in the physics of sound, light and all of the frequencies.

So let's take that apart a little bit.

When you.

So there's a.

There's a conceptual framework that you've laid down and then there's a method which is something about your voice.

And so conceptually the idea is I'm going to say something and then I want you to correct it or adjust it or.

Okay, so I have a vision.

And my vision is this year, which started in October, I'm going to reach 300 million people with a message and give them some methods and help them with mastery, which turns in the real world into products and services and some kind of coaching if they want to use that.

But the message is really about their own capability to create and you're facilitating that too.

So when you think of.

In your, I won't say modality, I guess is the word your modality?

Yeah, your modality of that.

When you think of some kind of a barrier or obstacle that would be in the way of me or anyone else creating that.

Yeah.

What does that look like?

How do you identify some dissonance or frequency that's getting in the way?

For sure.

So I actually ask them.

So what happens is I get them to write out a statement of the vision and I get them to write out whatever recurring thoughts, whatever different concerns.

If there are fears, I know fear is probably not something for you, but if there are other kinds of concerns which might show up, then that's what I get them to write out.

And then I utilize that to.

To be able to key into wherein their energetic system is this misaligned.

If there is a misalignment, and there might not be.

Right, like with yourself, there might not be a misalignment, there might already be that everything is perfect and we can just continue to activate the state which you're in so you can get there faster or you can actually experience doing so with more effortless flow.

Right.

I want to jump on that just for a second.

So that's really good, because sometimes you or I, we might ask somebody, you know, what's in the way of your vision?

And they're like, well, nothing.

I.

And so what you're saying is, gee, what about amplifying?

What about, you know, increasing the resonance or the amplitude of the frequency?

Now, why are we talking frequency?

Tell me, tell the audience.

Why are we babbling about frequency here?

I think very simply, everything has a frequency.

And, you know, we wear a skin suit and which we.

Which we experience as our bodies and our vessels, and then that makes up who we are.

But, you know, from an energetic standpoint, there's something well beyond that.

And in the same way that there are people and there are ideas which you resonate with, there's similar things happening within yourselves where there are things which are resonating and there are things which are not.

And when they don't resonate, that can lead to things like illness, it can lead to stress, to tension, it can lead to physical pain, it can lead to challenges around mental health, it can lead to fears and different other concerns, and it can lead to an internal dialogue which is inconsistent with who you truly are.

So I love that.

And when you say resonant, I want everybody listening to think about something you've heard, and you hear it and you just have this thing and you want.

Yeah, that thing, that idea, that person.

And another time when you've heard a thing and you're like, oh, no way.

Is that what you're talking about?

100%.

100%, yeah.

Spot on.

So what would you say to somebody who would say, yeah, but life is just like it is, and crap happens all around me, and I can't help it?

Yeah.

Well, the first thing I'd be wanting to hear is, where did you come up with that idea that you can't help it?

Right.

Where did you feel like you were helpless for the first time?

What do you do with that?

So if I recite, if somebody, you know, talks to you about a childhood experience or a time when they were abused as a kid or suffered a lot of physical punishment or pain or sexual abuse or something that they were powerless to do, and they.

They dig that up and say it difficult with whatever difficulty it is, but they vomited on the table, then what?

Yeah, and that happens a lot, just to be clear.

So what I'd invite them to do is I'd get them to close their eyes.

Because I want them to get out of the cognitive mind and I want them to really presence where they feel that in their body.

Because the more they can locate where they feel in the body, the more they're going to start to connect with what's actually there rather than what's suppressed, right?

Because all these different parts of us, they want to be welcomed, all these different emotions, they want to be welcome.

But we've generally been taught to push them away or not into, not to feel them.

And this is the opposite.

This is actually feel everything which is uncomfortable because on the other side is something so magnificent you don't even realize what you're missing out on.

Even no matter what challenge you've dealt with, no matter how, you know, horrific the level of sexual abuse, if sexual abuse is the challenge that you've gone through.

And I've worked with countless people where that's been what they've dealt with, right?

So I'm familiar with that kind of situation.

But I'm also able to hold the space for them, a sacred space for there's a safety for them to go through that without them being terrified or retraumatizing them, right?

And then what I'm going to ask them are questions around what are the emotions that they're experiencing when they connect with the energy in the embody?

And what's the intensity of what they're feeling, you know, on a number scale, on a scale of 0 to 10?

Because that will give me some sense of both, how connected they are to it, both what is the emotion?

So if I know the emotion is grief or sadness, then I'll bring through a sequence of sounds which will match onto that emotion.

And the idea here is I'm seeking to have that emotion be fully experienced.

And by being fully experienced, it tends to dissolve.

And then what opens up is essentially more intelligence within the cellular system.

And what that can look like is it can feel lighter, more spacious.

You might be able to breathe more deeply.

You might feel like your body starts to relax.

You might feel like your voice starts to change and there's a deeper resonance in the way that you speak.

And then what I'll do is to amplify that state.

And the way I do it is to amplify it with what I call a frequency of love.

And basically what I'm inviting them to do is to experience whatever it is that that version of self didn't get to hear, right?

And to really pour that love into them in the spaces where something is opening up.

So Rather than focus on it, the more of the tension, we want to focus on more of the light.

Because the more we focus on that, the more the tension starts to dissolve on its own.

And so I'll keep working with them to go through these spaces, to dissolve whatever is there and to just keep allowing more of this light to open up so more of their own wisdom, more of their own intelligence can come through and they can get to a space either healing, clearing, or creating what they want.

So I love that and some key pieces is the perhaps counterintuitive but powerful idea that the things that you have held on to because of these difficulties are there.

And to dissolve them, you don't fight with them, beat them up, push them away, or anything else.

Fully experiencing them, which is what you've described, allows them to go away, dissolve.

And when they dissolve, it leaves a space.

And then the focus is what goodness, light and joy can we bring into that space to create peace?

And then, gee, now that I'm here in peace, what can I.

What is it that I have sort of felt on the periphery to do and be that I want to sort of bring in to full focus and amplify and create in the world?

What do I want to have show up as me in the world?

Did I describe that perfectly?

Yeah, it's absolutely spot on.

Okay, cool.

So I love what you do.

And so my question was, how do you add good to the world?

And you just said that this whole thing is answering that question.

So I do this thing that helps people experience and dissolve difficulties, past traumas, no matter what they were, create space that then peace can fill and then allow them to think sometimes, maybe for the first time, about what they really want to be unhindered by that negativity.

And let's pour love on that until it grows and your confidence grows to be able to do it.

Is that right?

Yeah, spot on.

Okay, cool.

So now the question is, now I understand what you do.

How did you get there?

Like, you didn't fall up that mountain, so nobody does.

I mean, you know, it takes work.

You know, I play the.

I played the piano since I was five and I've done a lot of performances and I play professionally, etc.

Etc.

And you don't fall up that mountain either.

So tell me how you climbed.

What happened?

Yeah, I'd say It's been a 20 year journey.

So my background was as a philosopher and I grew up around academia.

Like, my father's a renowned academic, so that was always part of the experience of Life and always being, asking big questions.

So it was kind of a natural fit for me to go into that realm.

And I studied the nuances of the human condition, both in looking at the realms of politics and in looking at law up until the doctorate level.

And when it was 2017 was when I didn't get my doctorate.

And that was.

Why didn't you?

What made you decide not to finish?

Well, I.

I know I submitted the PhD and I didn't.

I didn't receive it.

So essentially what happen happened is at Oxford they have a thing called a viva, and you defended the thesis, and when it came back to getting the results, the results were something called a referral, which just basically meant, like, if you want to resubmit this, it's going to be, you know, a couple of years of work to be able to get it to a standard for it to be passed.

And at that point, you know, my entire life was hinged on being an academic.

It was like, this is the only thing which makes me happy.

This is the only thing that I'm good at.

So if I'm not that, I'm no one.

Right?

So the feelings of fear, failure, shame, suicidal ideation were very, very strong at that time point because I had this sense of having so much potential and I wasn't fulfilling it.

And so that was horrifying to kind of go through.

And, you know, after two years of my brother asking me to do some personal development, I finally said yes.

And that was when I stepped into, in my case, the landmark forum in 2017.

Not really knowing much about it, but I just trusted my brother.

I thought, I've tried my way for two years, it's been horrendous.

Don't think it can get any worse.

So I stepped out of that three and a half days or whatever it was with an entirely different perspective on who I was.

And I saw philosophy from a different lens because I actually started to shift from the pessimist that I was to an optimist within those three and a half days.

And I was like, oh, philosophy can actually be useful.

It's not just for, like the ivory tower kind of, you know, stuff.

So I started to see a new world.

And I went through that, you know, that training for a number of years and got the opportunity to see, okay, there's a bigger version of me than I knew.

Like, I wasn't interested in leadership back then.

I thought leadership was something which was connected to authority, which is what I wrote about in politics.

And I wasn't interested in that.

So it wasn't want to be a leader.

And, you know, so that was.

There's a lot of stories which had to be reprogrammed for me to start to even consider of doing something which wasn't just about me, right?

And then once I saw there was something bigger beyond me that was at stake and I actually was interested in that, that's when I started to work with leaders who actually were interested in that too.

And I worked in a confidential role with someone who impacted tens of millions of lives.

And every day you would go in, in an experience of being able to deal with your own humanity and see what was in the way of you being able to be effective in the role.

And in that nine months that I was there, I left it thinking, if I can make this work in this notoriously challenging environment, then it's probably I can do anything.

And so from there, I started my coaching business again.

It wasn't, you know, super successful, and I was frustrated because it's like, oh, I can't actually share who I worked with or anything like that.

And I had to discover something beyond the version of needing something or someone's validation to be able to be a success.

And it started to shift in 2022, when I was in a plant medicine journey, a guided plant medicine journey, and I wrote two pages of intentions down and everything showed up.

Everything that was a problem or a fear showed up, and then it quickly dissolved in experiencing it.

And then from that space, it was like a space of pure creativity.

Essentially the same sort of space that I'm talking about when I work with people was the space that I was experiencing.

So, like, there was nothing in the space, so you can create anything.

And so from my awareness, things came in like, oh, in a hallucinogenic state.

I'm coaching the then Prime Minister of England, Boris Johnson.

I'm, you know, talking to organizations in transformation and questioning the litigious nature of their organizations.

I'm talking to a person who is an energy healer and talking about the quality of the lack of integrity of his programs.

And then I get a much deeper message where imagine essentially doing snow angels on a floor in a room where there's people around you just making sure you're fine and saying, I'm here to heal all the bullshit in the world.

And with these psychedelic journeys, you can choose how you go.

You could either go, oh, that was a nice trip, or whatever, or you could say, well, what's the wisdom in this?

And for me, I went, well, it seems maybe there's something in the healing world that I meant to do.

I'd already kind of felt a pull towards it, but I'd also been told by others, no, that's probably snake oil.

You should avoid that.

So I kind of listened to them and thought, no, this is just me being gullible again.

Some old story of Sam.

And when I did it this time, it basically entirely changed my life and it changed the paradigm, which I saw what was possible not just for me, but for others.

And I started to get coached on the second day of this training on fear of success.

And very quickly we were looking at, where is that located in the body?

So this is where I started to understand things at a somatic level.

And I saw, oh, there's this real horrible pain in the left side of my torso, which has been there strangely since basically after the plant medicine journey.

And in this space, I discovered I could essentially heal myself.

So I started to transmute the energy, and the energy ran all the way down my leg, about a foot beyond my feet, and then about a foot beyond my hands.

And then I did something even stranger for me, which I started to speak in a different voice.

I started to effectively channel, and I spoke to the person who was leading the program.

I said, hey, I saw you in my plant medicine journey, did some of your business programs.

You're a great healer.

Why don't you focus on that?

And he was really supportive.

He said, I've actually considered doing that, but I also love the healing.

And I said, okay, great, carry on with what you're doing.

But that space of seeing how quickly, within seven minutes it would take to get someone to peace opened up an entirely new world of what was possible.

But I also saw there was something missing because it was focused on just healing something, but it wasn't actually showing the possibility, possibility of creation.

So I started to use what I understood about creating vision to help basically, you know, reverse engineer the process by taking the vision and then using the existing tools that I was now developing to be able to go and clear what was in the way of fulfilling the vision.

But then things got interesting again, where my own skepticism was around breath, like breath was one of the techniques which they talked about.

But I thought, this is.

This is snakeho.

This part doesn't mean anything.

But suddenly I was watching a video which is called tbot NFL.

If you ever look it up on commitment Steve Hardison on Google, you'll find this video.

It's a very powerful video as a way of creating yourself as a commitment, as A declaration.

And every time I'd watched it, something had emerged.

And on this particular time, I was watching it, it's about an hour and 36 minutes in, and I stopped it.

And I felt an internal frustration.

I was like, why can't I do for myself what I do for others?

And in that moment, I just felt energy, you know, in my hands.

I remember, like, rubbing my hands like this, and then my arms went out like this.

And I've never done that in my life.

It was like the equivalent of like a Jesus on the Cross moment.

And I could feel energy tingling in my hands.

And the next time I worked with people, I started to have these breaths come through me from the torso all the way up through.

And I used to describe people as like, this is almost like my mouth would look like Voldemort.

It was breathing through my mouth.

But the power of the breath was able to shift fear, clear physical pain in the body.

And it was incredibly potent.

And so that was the way that I developed it until I did another unusual experience which led to a clearing in my throat and I started to be able to use sound frequencies.

So there's been this evolution, almost like the upgrading of operating system across the time.

And each time my ambition has just got stronger and stronger because I saw what's actually possible is, you know, way, way bigger than what I ever really realized before.

So that is a fascinating and interesting journey.

What's interesting about it is the one thing leads to another process, right?

Yes.

And something I want to make sure I hear or the listeners hear is this one thing doesn't lead to another unless you do the one thing.

So in other words, something happens to you, an idea occurs to you or an experience, and you say yes to that experience, and then you play with it, which is what allows it to lead you to another thing.

The upgrading of an operating system doesn't happen unless you upgrade the operating system.

In other words, you have to actually do the stuff.

And we live in this sort of world, this download and double click and went.

We want to get right to the end zone.

But right now, right, we don't want to have to fight our way down the field or climb up the mountain or whatever the metaphor is, right?

Yeah.

We don't want to do that work.

We just want it to happen.

Why do you suppose we all, to more and less degree, live with both the story and the reality of experiencing life far below what's possible?

Yeah, my own sense of it is it's just an evolutionary story, Right.

It's like, what was the level of consciousness which, you know, if there's 37 trillion cells, how many of those cells were already impacted before we even entered, you know, the world?

Right.

Like, I didn't know until a year or two ago how much of what I was experiencing was impacted by something which was beyond my own lifetime.

Like, it wasn't something I was aware of.

And most of us that I think are aware of that to the level that it is, right?

If you could trace any emotion, like, you know, if I work with a leader around overwhelm and start to feel into it, and I say, does this feel like yours, or does it feel like it's beyond you?

It feels like it's beyond me.

And then in that moment, as I start to bring through this sound, which is a, you know, ancestral generational clearing sound, they basically connected with an experience of ancestors who were slaves.

So there was a lack of freedom in that capacity.

Then they experienced the women who had basically felt a lack of freedom in their own life.

And then it started to connect with their own life themselves once we cleared that and they could start to be free.

And as they start to experience freedom, the overwhelm dissipates from that space.

But none of that was something I was aware of.

So I think most of us have a very.

A general lack of awareness of truly what is creating our experience of life.

And we don't have a say in it until we actually create that level of awareness.

We're just going in through a life in a way.

We think, oh, this is just the way things are.

You know, my way of describing is like, this was my lot in life.

Like, I described myself as having anxiety until I was 31, from 3 to 3 to 31.

And, you know, that was my lot in life, and my role was to manage it.

And I think a lot of people experience themselves from that standpoint.

But in terms of why we have it that way and why we have this diminishing story, I think that's just an evolutionary aspect.

So the more we over time shift the consciousness of humanity, the less that's likely to be the way that people are born into the experience they're born into.

And as you see, like, there a video on Instagram the other day, I was watching kids talk about frequency, and they were basically talking about God and frequency as one and the same.

Wasn't like God was a man up in the same for them.

It was just a frequency.

It's like, holy crap.

Like, I would never have talked like that at Five or six years old.

But for them, that was just the most natural thing to express.

So to me, that's a reflection of a shift in consciousness which allows for a way of speaking and creating, which is unhinged.

And there's possibilities of allowing those kind of kids to continue to foster that kind of expression.

If we continue to go down the path that we're going down.

It's interesting.

And again, when.

When you speak because of your experience and because of the work you do, it's.

It's dense, the idea of generational or cellular experience and trauma, if you will, but just the accumulation of experience, which is limiting.

The limiting accumulation of experience.

As you describe that.

I thought of my own upbringing and that of probably everybody, but that the way that we experience life, whether we have or have not, whether there's fear or negativity, and we absorb all that energetically around us, whether it involves us or not, it's there.

And if our parents have had that from their thing, you know, that becomes this massive accumulation of stuff that is just that, an accumulation of stuff.

It doesn't have anything to do with what is possible here and now.

And being able to then experience that for what it is, an accumulation of stuff, and then let it go, because that's all it was anyway, is an accumulation of stuff.

And then live in the emptiness of what is possible.

The openness by emptiness, not negatively, but the openness of what is possible.

The expanse of possibility.

What is your most joyful?

Like doing the work that you do?

You have to find people and work with them and everything.

What is the thing that makes you experience just joy so that you feel joyful for no reason?

So just yesterday I was on a friend's balcony in Lisbon, and I think they were having a nap after New Year's.

They were a bit tired.

So I just.

All right, I'm gonna just enjoy the sunshine.

Because I live in London.

There's not a lot of sunshine in winter.

So I'm just enjoying the sunshine.

And I closed my eyes, just allowing, like, basically grounding myself.

And by grounding, I mean I was allowing my energy to ground into the earth, imagining that, like, there were roots coming into the base of my feet.

And as I had my eyes closed, something happened which I'd never experienced before.

Like, lots of different people have an experience where they.

Sometimes they'll see color energetically.

I'd never seen that before, but this time I saw, with my eyes closed, this beautiful orange hue.

And I was just, like, in awe.

And I had to open My eyes a couple of times to make sure I wasn't just looking at the sky and was orange because I was almost confused by what was going on.

And then other times, the field of vision would change to purple again, nothing I'd experienced before.

And then I noticed I could also see the little molecules of air with my eyes closed.

Now, usually I could do that with my eyes open.

They look like little pellets of bubbles, translucent.

But this time I could see them with my eyes closed.

And then what happened is they actually changed color and they changed into almost like a blue or purple hue with the gold being in the background.

So for me, this was an extraordinary experience because it was like, oh, there's something awakening in me.

And every time I noticed that there was like a desire to create something from it, I just, okay, let's sit back and just allow.

Because it's so easy to want to force an outcome or try to get somewhere, but this is actually an opportunity for me just to absorb and allow whatever's coming through from this space.

So that would be an example for me of something which was just an unbridled joy of experiencing being an environment in nature, which I don't usually take the time to do, and seeing what actually happens from the stillness.

One of the things we talk about, maybe babble about in the personal development universe that we're both in is the idea that two things.

One, we create our lives by what we say, what we think.

We literally create them by the thoughts and energy that we hold.

And then as a corollary or a follow, an outcome of that is that you can create anything you want.

Anything is possible.

Would you talk about that a little bit?

Because I talk about that all the time.

I believe it, I live it.

But I want to hear you discuss that.

Just go ahead.

Yeah.

I think for me, it's become clear that anything is possible just by witnessing the audaciousness of what people come to me with.

Right.

Like the first time I thought, that's a really.

That's the most audacious thing someone's ever asked me.

And they said, I want to be able to hold the energy of hundreds of millions of dollars, because I'm about to shift from, like, regular coaching to working with corporates where I need to be asking for, you know, seven figures, eight figure partnerships, like, just energy.

Let's see what's there.

And so we just went through the story.

We looked at all of the story around money that was there for them, and then we looked at anything that was there.

As a belief which would hold them back from me actually being able to walk in that corporate space.

I think they had some beliefs about potentially being stupid or seen as being seen as stupid.

So we need to clear that.

And then there was the actual experience of being able to ask for that.

And at some point they got to a space where they said, Sam, it's too easy to ask for a seven figure partnership.

Can you ask bigger numbers?

Okay, when you think about asking for eight figures from this corporation, what do you feel in your body?

And like, oh, I feel it here.

It was almost like filling a tank.

And there was about a 30% capacity.

So what I worked with them in that particular session was just to be able to feel their capacity.

So that by the time, you know, you know, there was no uncomfortability about asking for that note, that sort of number, it was just like, oh, I could ask for anything.

And so from that experience I started to think, okay, well if that's possible for them, right, what's possible for everyone, what's possible for anyone around their own financial capacity.

Like the ceiling is just an imaginary ceiling.

So what we need to do is just to work on anything which is blocking them from being able to have what they truly want or what they desire.

And let's shortcut the time that it takes to be able to produce that result.

And so for me, people come and say like, I want to create something which is going to impact the entire cosmos.

And my job isn't to judge it or to say that's not possible.

My job is just to say, okay, let's see what's there, let's see what's there and see what's in the way of you actually being able to create that.

And I've got no attachment to whether you have this thing because it might not be aligned, but if it's aligned, let's create the space from within you to see what's possible.

So that's the way I play with it.

I have a very playful approach.

Even when it's dealing with something serious, like trauma or even abuse.

Right.

You don't.

If you create a really heavy and serious approach, it doesn't create safety, it creates the opposite.

So you want to actually create a space for people to feel okay, just to be exactly as they are, but also not to add to the tension that's already there around the idea to make them feel more like, I can't deal with this.

Right.

So that's, that's been, my approach is just to really be very Playful about whatever someone wants to call in and if it's aligned, you know, be the space someone described as a resonant sounding board for their wisdom to come through.

So that's for me, what the infinite space of possibility looks like.

We're clearing a space for their wisdom to come through.

And that comes through most easily when we amplify the frequency of love.

Right.

Not just love for oneself, but love for their ancestors.

So if someone has a really extraordinary legacy, what I'll often do is I'll get them to connect with the energy which is ancestral, which is around all the experiences that their ancestors had gone through, which had allowed for them to be born, which is allowing them to step into a moment where they're transmuting that and then stepping into an entirely different paradigm for what it is to be human.

And that gratitude, we already know gratitude scientifically has such a powerful impact.

But when you add resonance to gratitude, oh my God, it's like amplifies it in this exponential way.

So this is another way that I would say to be able to just bring them feel, you know, into a space of infinite possibility.

Right.

So the language that you're using and the words describe a situation you talked earlier, maybe it was in this episode or maybe it was before, about using your voice in a particular way to do that.

And in your own experience, you've experienced the deepening of voice and other kinds of things.

So what is.

What do you mean?

What does that mean?

You talk about ancestral voice and, you know, all these different sounds.

Tell me a little bit more about that.

Sure.

So, and it's all been a discovery based process for me.

So what the.

The journey of sound as it started, you know, I like to describe, it's a bit like a boy going through puberty where their voice starts to break so suddenly I could make this sound where it would start, like a really, like, bass sound, and then it would go up to like a high pitch, almost like a chorister in terms of its frequency.

And It'll be about 15 seconds, it would just go up and down and in that time it would release something or it would create more light within someone.

And then from there I was, you know, I worked with someone because I hired them to be able to help me work on transforming group consciousness.

And I didn't know whether that was truly possible, but I had a sense it was.

And she said, yeah, we can do that.

We just need to be able to expand your capacity beyond your physical body.

And so from that experience, what happened is the richness of the sound amplified.

And as a consequence of that, the potency of the results also amplified.

And the effortlessness for me of being able to create the sound amplified as well.

And so what happened was I kept going through these different spaces where the texture of sound changed.

And as the texture of sound changed, I started to see, oh, wait, it's not just like this up and down sound.

There's also this melodic aspect which wants to come through.

So just to give you some context, the reason that I use the melodic sounds that I do now is because I did a.

What's called a, basically a past life regression.

And what that meant was I went through an experience which connected me with something which I wasn't aware aware of beyond my own experience of life.

And in this particular situation, I got connected with something which felt like it was about 3,000 years ago in, you know, ancient China, and I was a woman with a healing sound.

And it seemed like they really didn't like that.

They killed me.

And from that space, I connected with, oh, I might have died, but the etheric body lived on.

So basically the energy lived on because the energy doesn't die, so has to just go somewhere else.

And in that moment, I started to make this oriental sound, which was like a melody, and I'd never done that before.

And I started to train myself to be able to recreate that and to build the practice of, okay, there's something I've captured here.

And it seems like it's often capturing the emotion of sadness.

So what if then when people are experiencing emotions, I could actually look at what is the emotion which is behind what's expressed, experienced in the body.

And if it's anger, then we're bringing through a sound which is a representation of that, so we can transmute it.

If it's sadness, we're bringing through a sound which is a representation of that, so we can clear it.

And then as I got deeper into the practice, I discovered, oh, I can now simply make sounds which represent something which is ancestral.

And these sounds would sound almost shamanic or tribal Indian.

I bet other people describe them as whale sounds because whale, that's what they had references and associations with whale music when they grew up.

So that's what comes through for them.

But that's what has happened each time there's been a journey where there's a shift in what the sound and the resonance has gone with.

I've been able to tune in intuitively to something was like, oh, this has an impact in this space.

Let Me try that out and test out whether that's actually accurate.

I get the biofeedback from within the sessions with the clients and they're like, yeah, this is what's happening.

Oh, this is what just happened.

For instance, I remember making like a six minute audio which was about ancestral clearing.

Sent it to a few people and they would send me the most wild responses of what this six minute video had done.

Like, one of them was Israeli, obviously going through horrific times around the wars there.

And they said this.

I was holding the energy of Israel around war, right?

And this allowed me to let that go.

I was just blown away.

Like, I had no idea that something like that could have that kind of impact.

You know what this reminds me of?

There's a.

There's a.

I did a television series called Creative Save the world of 10 episodes, and I'm going to do season two one of these days.

And one of the people that was a guest on that first series was a woman who did sound healing.

And she did it some with her voice, but she also had, you know, sound bowls of different frequencies and all that sort of thing to create sounds, to do the same kind of thing.

And it feels like you're describing a similar thing, only you're using only your voice as opposed to instruments or bowls or other kinds of things.

But it all focuses on the ability to identify and connect with particular sound frequencies, to both connect to the emotion, allow it to be experienced, allow it to go away, connect with creative power and build it with resonance like you described with gratitude.

Does that make sense?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Like, the reason I don't describe this sound healing is because my own focus is not so much on healing, but on creating.

So I think we, you know, by focusing only on the healing, we misunderstand our own creative power.

Because for me, it's always a question, what do you want to create with that from that new space that you're in?

Like, if your answer is I just want peace, okay, great.

But, you know, from that state, you can create anything, so you may as well look, right.

I totally get it.

I totally get it.

It's.

You know, sometimes people ask about the difference between a counselor or a shrink and coaching.

And I always use the metaphor or the example of a doctor.

If I break my leg, I go to the doctor, get the bone set, but I don't keep going to the doctor.

If I want to go to the Olympic podium, I've got to get somebod that lets me go from my leg's okay now to what is the possibility with my capability.

And so that's how I'm hearing what you're saying.

Totally.

Yeah.

Like, for me, what I see this technology can actually do is help us solve the world's biggest problems.

Because what's in the way so often is that we're trying to figure it out.

And if we're trying to figure it out, we're relying on the cognitive mind rather than our own genius.

So if you actually were able to connect with your own genius and you already are someone who's trying to solve a really big problem for humanity, then this is an access point to being able to see a way which doesn't come from the space of, oh, can I really do that?

I'm not sure it's gonna work.

Will people believe this?

You know, no, this is too hard.

Do I have the resources?

All the other crap that's in the way of actually being able to.

To fulfill on the thing gets dissolved.

And then from that space is like, oh, I can do it this way.

And you can do this both with a macro approach where someone's coming in with like, here's my audacious vision for humanity over the next five years, or you can do it with the most micro thing.

Like, I need to be able to scale my ad strategy.

I'm really frustrated with the fact that these people don't understand my business like I do.

And it's like, okay, well, let's find the aligned strategy energetically within, which shows you the way.

And whether it's ads or not, you'll figure it out.

But we're just gonna.

That's gonna show up from this space of clearing all the frustrations that are there.

Right.

And then in the moment, we can create and activate you, experiencing the approach that you take and speaking it into existence.

So that's.

That's my way of doing it.

So I love that I want you to take a minute now or a couple minutes or whatever.

I'm sure that there are going to be people that hear this that say, gee, I'd like to know more.

I'd like to find out something.

So I don't know if you've written books or if you have programs or ways that people can find you.

Tell us about that.

Sure.

So there's a couple of things.

The first thing is that I am in the process of building a platform which is around optimizing the human condition.

And what that will look like is basically any of the challenges which people deal with.

We're looking to be able to transmute this through a series of sound journeys utilizing neuro resonance optimization.

So that's something which is in the works for 2025.

And this is something where across the next 10 years, we see the possibility of impacting a billion lives or more.

So that's one thing I'll say.

We've already created a short series of programs which will already facilitate that experience.

And we're looking at being able to partner with different kinds of organizations who want to bring this in to transform the ideas of workplace wellness.

Creating Ease Flow for your, not just for your clients, but also for your, all your employees.

You know, this is an idea where instead of flow being something where it takes action to create flow, flow is a prior state which you experience in the body and then from that state you operate from flow.

So this is something which I see as revolutionizing what people have thought about as the whole state of flow.

And then in terms of where people can find me, I have a company called Soul Purpose Leaders, SOL, as in S O U L.

And it is solepurposeleaders.com My name, Sam Cookathus.

There is no other Sam in the world, so it's easy to find me from that standpoint.

And.

And then you can find me on social media as well, either at Sam Cookathus or sole purpose leaders solepurposeleader.com or.

Leaders plural.com leaders.com solepurposeleaders.com and that's fabulous.

And do you put up YouTube videos or those kinds of things or not?

I've done some YouTube videos, but it's not been where I've primarily put my attention, but it's something that I'm looking at in 2025.

Both, to be honest.

Yeah, I was just curious about where, you know, where people might find you talking about or doing something so they can see more.

And yeah, like, I've done a series of podcasts and I'll be doing a lot more of that.

But I often also facilitate in unusual spaces.

So I facilitate in places like Antarctica, the pyramids of Egypt, Cuba, on a boat for a friend's 40th birthday.

You know, I'm about to go back to LA, I think, to.

To do another retreat.

So I'm always being invited to these kinds of experiences as well.

So people are looking to be able to bring a very unique form of quantum leadership into their programs.

Or if they're looking to bring something into retreat space, then that's also something that I do.

Sam, thanks for sharing your journey, your wisdom and your invitation with us today.

I appreciate that.

Thank you so much, Kellen.

It's been an absolute pleasure to talk to you listeners.

I'd like your watchers.

I hope you're watching the video, but I want you to take time to listen to this a couple times.

Sam talks fast, which I do too sometimes, and he says a lot of dense stuff that can sound like a bunch of as it goes by.

And I want you to slow down and hear what's possible there.

The truth of our ability to create anything, which I've talked about a lot and so have other guests.

You can have whatever you want in your life.

And the way that happens is clear out what's in the way, what's in the space of your creation.

Now create space and then move forward in the same way, amplifying the true desires and capabilities, gifts and talents that you have.

And in that, that way, you'll be able to move forward and create your ultimate life right here, right now.

Your opportunity for massive growth is right in front of you.

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